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To: mojito

reminds me of a Tom Clancy novel, about a Japanese who commandeers a 747 and crashes it into Congress I think it was.
And that was WW2 internment revenge.
What if the plane has landed, all passengers removed, plane is filled with HE and then is flown directly into an American target, an airbase, carrier etc.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 11:29:07 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Spartan302

Good grief.

TFHA!!


13 posted on 03/09/2014 11:32:44 AM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: Spartan302
carrier

It would be shot down. IF your scenario happened, the plane doesn't become 'invisible'. It will show up on radar. But there could be another hijacking, the first hijacked plane then steals that clearance from the second hijacked plane so ATC wouldn't know and wouldn't respond then....then...

You heard it here first.

44 posted on 03/09/2014 12:13:10 PM PDT by xone
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To: Spartan302

Actually, the scene you’re referring to is from the Clancy novel, ‘Debt of Honor”.
The novel centers around a Japanese government that is taken over by war-mongering industrialists. They incite a war...yes, a shooting war...with the US. The bulk of the novel is the story of how we cleaned their clocks both militarily and through cloak-and-dagger stuff.

In the novel, a pilot for Japan Air Lines named Sato loses both a brother and his only son in the war. As a result, he goes a little bonkers and hatches a plan. He gins up a way to fly a 747 to Washington D.C. to exact an ‘honorable’ revenge. He manages to crash the plane into a joint session of Congress, killing everyone, including the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the entire Supreme Court, and the President and First Lady. The only survivor (because he was on his way to another part of the building) was the newly-sworn-in Vice President, Jack Ryan.

In the novel, a Secret Service person on the roof of the Capitol does manage to fire a Stinger at the aircraft at near point-blank range, and it does take out an engine, but it was too little, too late.


64 posted on 03/09/2014 2:24:43 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Spartan302

I read that novel. The airliner kills the crappy president and practically all the members of Congress and the US gets the chance for a fresh start without all the entrenched politicians.


72 posted on 03/09/2014 4:27:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Spartan302

Ah yes the book Debt of Honor.

Captain Sato was the character, and he was seeking revenge for seeing his brother’s warship being blown to pieces, as well as finding out his fighter pilot son being killed in the same conflict.


94 posted on 03/10/2014 2:48:35 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Politicians and diapers need to be changed for the same reason)
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To: Spartan302
Speaking of a Tom Clancy novel, I have a theory that is nearly that wild. I think the plane was stolen and is in one piece somewhere on land. It involves curvature of the Earth, radar horizon versus altitude, line of sight, target distance from radar, and a slight of hand. At enough distance from the radar sight you only have to lose a little altitude to drop below the radar horizon. At 35,000 feet the radar should be able to detect a target out to 228 miles minus a little due to ground clutter. The formula is Horizon Distance In Miles = 1.22*(square root of target altitude in feet). If the plane was flying a little lower than indicated( this is the part I'm working on ) then at the range reported for MH370 of 120 miles a short quick descent could take him off radar. Turn off transponder and any telemetry that transmitted from the plane. (Note that there would be no cell phone coverage over open water at this range.) Drop lower and turn out to sea. With 5 hours of fuel left the plane could go a long way, theoretically about 2500 miles. Jets operate at lower efficiency at lower levels so would be less than 2500 but still a long way. Avoid radar to some obscure site, land, park, and hide. Plane stolen. The mystery stolen passport people may have been brought on board to police and confiscate phones and electronics while out of cell range.

There is more to my theory, but I will resist the "who" and "why" parts right now and try to work on numbers. I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theory nutcase, but when I thought of this and the possibility it could be real, I realized it needed critics to pick it apart and disprove it if possible because those passengers may still be alive. I'm trying to break it myself so fire away.

105 posted on 03/10/2014 8:02:21 PM PDT by lwoodham (Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.)
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To: Spartan302

It seems to me that it would be far easier to scheme to steal an empty plane from an airport (disguised pilots, bribery) than to have to deal with over 200 uncooperative passengers with families and governments trying to find out what happened to them.


119 posted on 03/11/2014 1:46:32 PM PDT by white_wolf
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