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Obama and the EU had 5 1/2 years to prepare for this eventuality, and did nothing.

No energy policy. Reduction of military readiness. Continued destruction of the currency and the nations' Capital Stock.

Now we're hearing a cry to intervene militarily, the siren song that a desperate and confused POTUS/EU is likely unable to resist.

Worst of all possible outcomes.

A military engagement with Russia in Crimea is certain recipe for disaster.

1 posted on 03/11/2014 2:48:17 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner
Didn't the nuclear disarmament treaty REQUIRE the U.S. to protect and defend Ukraine in exchange for their disabling their nuclear arsenal?

Hello, Obama? Crickets?

2 posted on 03/11/2014 2:53:38 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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Top U.S. Diplomat for Europe to the U.S. ambassador to the Ukraine: "F*** the E.U."
3 posted on 03/11/2014 2:54:37 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Mariner
A military engagement with Russia in Crimea is certain recipe for disaster.

Ask the ghosts of the 600.

7 posted on 03/11/2014 3:04:08 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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Anyone who gives up their nukes is an idiot.

If the Ukraine had nukes today, Russia wouldn’t have taken the Crimea.

Yes, we should stop Iran and nations like it from getting nukes, but I can certainly understand why they’d want to get their hands on one.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 3:27:28 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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Ukraine aside... I believe it is a teaching moment to those in America who say they value multiculturalism as good in itself. NOT NECESSARILY !!

Note what is happening in Ukraine where one part of the “country” speaks Russian and consider themselves loyal to mother Russia instead of Ukraine.

LANGUAGE and VALUES are what unites a country. The moment you start splitting a country up into multiple groups who value their own language and values above the founding principles of this country, you have a formula for balkanization. It happened in the former Yugoslavia, is happening in Belgium and we are seeing it up close now in Ukraine ( with other places like Lithuania and Latvia, God forbid, soon to follow ).

That is why I am extremely troubled when I see Hispanics in Los Angeles watching a soccer game CHEERING for their “Home Team” Mexico and booing the US team. Some people say this is not a big deal.... I call it a portent of things to come.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 3:44:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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"Son...you're on your own."

15 posted on 03/11/2014 4:01:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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They need to appeal to a higher authority


19 posted on 03/11/2014 4:26:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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“The prime minister, heading for talks at the White House and United Nations, told parliament in Kiev he wanted the United States and Britain, as guarantors of a 1994 treaty that saw Ukraine give up its Soviet nuclear weapons, to intervene both diplomatically and militarily to fend off Russian “aggression”.”

Thanks, Clintoon. A gift that keeps on giving as if America is a chubby intern under his desk.


20 posted on 03/11/2014 4:33:15 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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"Ukraine's PM, heading for talks at the White House and United Nations wants the US and Britain, to intervene both diplomatically and militarily to fend off Russian "aggression".

Party's over!..these guys want to go home now and let the rest of the world pick up their mess! Sounds like have no intentions of finishing what they started....they poked the Bear and now they want to claim Agreements bind us to them... they want us to put our military men on the line against Russia?.....I don't think so....


21 posted on 03/11/2014 5:05:10 PM PDT by caww
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Is the puppet government in Kiev willing to resign and go back to the international agreement that was negotiated and signed on February 21st?

Crimea river.


23 posted on 03/11/2014 5:08:13 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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I don’t want one American serviceman’s life put at risk for one moment at the orders of Obastard. Not one more life.


27 posted on 03/11/2014 5:30:41 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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1} Soros

2)Nazis.

3) Everything's clear. A guy on the radio told me.

29 posted on 03/11/2014 5:36:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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Crimea has only been part of Ukraine for 50 years.

It was given to them by a Premier.

It can be taken away by a Premier.

They rejected Russia.

Tough crap.

30 posted on 03/11/2014 5:40:52 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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