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McConnell is finished, wave good bye to the nice man
Examiner ^ | March 11, 2014 | AARON BLAKE

Posted on 03/12/2014 9:23:45 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: Drew68

You’re saying Bevin can’t win? Why couldn’t he? He doesn’t have Mitchy Poo’s baggage. Rand Paul won — why not Bevin?


61 posted on 03/12/2014 2:31:36 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: nikos1121
I’m all for ridding these guys, trust me I am, but DO IT AFTER WE’VE GOT THE CONTROL OF THE SENATE.

Even if elections mattered (which I contend they don't post-2008) the GOP had total control of The House, The Senate AND the Presidency FOR SIX YEARS - and they SPENT MORE AND ENLARGED GOVERNMENT GREATER THAN ANY ADMINISTRATION BEFORE IT - UNTIL OBAMA.

Voting Republican means JACK CRAP if your principles are Conservative - the GOP are JUST AS BAD AS DEMOCRATS - IF NOT MORESO to the Republic and to Conservative principles.

If elections were to matter in the future, then the GOP has to be scrapped or totally eviscerated from the inside out and replaced with Conservatives or we continue this same Socialist/Fascist game the Oligarchy is playing on us.

62 posted on 03/12/2014 2:52:35 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tanknetter
If no quarter is given, none can be asked, right?

I think you have caught on.

Yes, and the pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-obamacare, anti-gun crowd is counting on all the KY FReepers here who are committing to vote for Grimes.

We had control of all three branches under GW and none of those issues you named above ever came up for discussion. Same was true of the early Reagan administration.

63 posted on 03/12/2014 3:12:37 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for RINOs is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: nikos1121

But what good is a majority of the Senate if the are composed of RINOs. Let’s be real here.


64 posted on 03/12/2014 3:29:16 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001
But what good is a majority of the Senate if the are composed of RINOs. Let’s be real here.

Absolutely nothing. We had a majority Republican Senate, House, and White house in the Bush II era and they expanded the government like yeast in a bread recipe. Limited government? Lowering spending? Depending on Republicans? Exactly - let's be real here.

Fool me once, shame on me. They want to fool me again?

"If you give me a Republican majority in the Senate, I won't let you down..."


65 posted on 03/12/2014 4:05:22 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: SoConPubbie

Mitch McConnell is NOT a nice man. Mich McConnell is a lying, backstabbing, worthless RINO loser. His political career must become extinct.


66 posted on 03/12/2014 4:20:13 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: tanknetter
If there is a flaw in my analysis, it is not the logic, but the data.

"PPP's newest Kentucky poll finds that Mitch McConnell is the least popular Senator in the country and as a result Alison Lundergan Grimes is remaining very competitive with him, even as Democrats have struggled nationally over the last couple months."

From a Hot Air article:

"Three of the four Kentucky polls taken so far this year have come from left- or right-leaning pollsters but the topline numbers have been roughly consistent. Two have McConnell up by one, one has the race a dead heat, and the fourth has Grimes up by four."

"Solution: Nominate Matt Bevin instead? He does roughly as well against Grimes as McConnell does (trailing by two instead of leading by one) and some polls have shown him outperforming him in the general against her."" (emphasis added)

So if Bevins has a better chance of beating the Democrat in the general election, it would make sense to support him in the primary. I frankly do not understand why the polling shows McConnell so far ahead of Bevins.

67 posted on 03/12/2014 5:32:43 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: T Ruth
If there is a flaw in my analysis, it is not the logic, but the data.

The data is just a snapshot. Everything else from now until November required predictive analysis. We can figure out what the big issues and trends will be pretty well. At the top of the list is ObamaCare ... not because it's a big issue right now, but because it's going to persist with a cascading series of events that are going to inflict increasing amounts of pain on a big chunk of the mid-term electorate.

In KY you can't really call, now, an election for an insurgent challenger (Bevins) who will have no support (and indeed might even be actively undermined) by his own state and nation party and is going up against an establishment candidate (Grimes) with exceptionally strong state and national backing by a Party that has a good track record of winning state-wide elections. Indeed, similar past situations (IN, MO, DE) clearly show a pattern of similar insurgent challengers getting crushed.
68 posted on 03/12/2014 5:43:52 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: nikos1121; All

I really can’t understand why we’re not supporting Mitch. We need to take the Senate.
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There you go again nikos. We don’t need Mitch to take the Senate. FIRST OF ALL: Polls show that Bevin will defeat Grimes but McConnell won’t. SECONDLY: We will take 9 seats from the DemocRATS without any help from Mitch “Harry Reid’s Bitch” McConnell.


69 posted on 03/16/2014 8:03:41 PM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: tanknetter

Plz see my Post #69.


70 posted on 03/16/2014 8:07:36 PM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: lowtaxsmallgov

I’d hate to see Harry Reid hang on as SML because Grimes defeated Bevin - that would be incredibly painful.
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Polls show Mitch “The Bitch” trailing Grimes and the same polls show Bevin defeating her.


71 posted on 03/16/2014 8:14:26 PM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: Din Maker
Plz see my Post #69.

The polls are just a snapshot. Based largely on the fact that McConnell is going after Grimes just as hard as he is Bevins, driving her negatives up. They don't take into account a multi-month campaign where Bevins will have to go it alone (really think that after being defeated McConnell, the KY state GOP and the national GOP will get behind him?) against a strong KY state Dem machine and a Dem candidate who has already run and won a statewide election. AND, thanks to her family political history in the state has really strong ties to the coal-producing and rural areas of the state that Bevins lacks.

I've seen this particular dance before. Indiana, last cycle, where an imperfect but still tolerable (if barely) sitting GOP Senator was primaried out and his "sure thing" replacement (according to all the posts about Mourdock around here at the time) ended up getting defeated in the general election.
72 posted on 03/17/2014 3:08:34 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

You may very well be right. But,where McConnell is concerned, a lot of people feel like a wife whose husband has been unfaithful and cheated on her. She doesn’t give a s**t. She just wants revenge and wants to see him hurt. Apparently you are not as vindictive as most of us FReepers. And, that’s a good thing; I guess.


73 posted on 03/17/2014 4:00:32 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: Din Maker

I have respect for people who plan to vote against McConnell on principle. As I’ve said on other threads I don’t like him and don’t consider myself a supporter of his, it’s just at this point I’m looking at races from a strategic and mechanical perspective. I see McConnell, right now, as the best chance of holding the seat and if that turns out not to be possible the best chance to suck lots of Dem money into KY ... which keeps it from being used elsewhere. I’ll add that the good likelihood of retaining the SC Senate seat leads me to believe that more effort to get rid of that little b@ast@rd Lindsey Graham, at least more effort than I’ve been seeing, would be a good thing.

I will reiterate my belief that polls, particularly this far out (8 months from the election) don’t exist in a vacuum. They shouldn’t be cited without informed analysis of other factors that will come into play.


74 posted on 03/17/2014 5:41:58 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SoConPubbie

I don’t care if it’s him or Linda. With would be a He LarryUs Hat trick.

Juan Of Shame is next and J.D. HAYWORTH is as good a contender as any else.


75 posted on 03/17/2014 3:09:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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