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100 serial rapists identified after rape kits from Detroit Crime Lab are finally processed
WXYZ ^ | Kim Craig

Posted on 03/13/2014 8:20:33 PM PDT by george76

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To: george76

In Xolorado they said to let yourself be raped and let the police do the rest. Ah


41 posted on 03/14/2014 12:39:38 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: catnipman

When women decided to be protected by the courts instead of good men and the courts sided opportunistically against having children raised by men even when the mother was a known cheater, we got the whole country swept in quick generation into liberal idiocy.

It is unrecognizable.


42 posted on 03/14/2014 12:52:13 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: piytar

I was responding to #10 in a satiric way


43 posted on 03/14/2014 1:04:50 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Unc1e_Ivan

Which would seem to be statistically impossible until you look at the first lady


44 posted on 03/14/2014 1:06:13 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Unc1e_Ivan

To the NSA that was a joke


45 posted on 03/14/2014 1:07:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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There are two separate issues conflated by the article, one being ineptitude and crass stupidity on the part of Detroit’s municipal employees and two the backlog of evidence found in ANY crime lab.

Despite fanciful myths stemming from entertaining fiction, forensic analysis takes quite a lot of time, money, and a large number of well-trained and educated personnel. What’s more, there is room for equivocation in a lot of the results - forensic evidence is an element that can help build a convincing case (or far more often elicit confessions and pleas), it is often not sufficient on its own. Despite what the dramatic writers may tell you, convictions don’t hang on a single flimsy piece of forensic analysis.

Considering that there are orders of magnitude more criminals than crime lab technicians, it’s no surprise that evidence can pile up faster than municipal and state agencies can process it. It makes rational sense to prioritize evidence processing under such conditions - as a hypothetical you could put the rape kits from cases where someone has already confessed or which there are already strong cases with an identified suspect on the back burner and run the DNA from a murder scenes instead. There are still tradeoffs, and those tradeoffs involve real human tragedies, but you still have to do the best you can with the resources you have available.

This is likely the story behind the typical rape case involved in the nation-wide backlog of rape kits: During initial interviews with the victim and the initial processing of the evidence, a kit is administered by hospital personnel and logged as evidence, officers investigating then do a little thing called police work. They try to get the best description of the assailant possible from the victim, they check surveillance cameras and interview people around the crime scene, and run down the list of possibles. If they find a good match for a suspect, they’ll sit him down and have a talk with him, see if they can trap him in a few of his own lies, point out how he bragged about the rape on twitter if that’s the case, put the fear of God into him and explain what’s going to happen to a rapist in prison, and start convincing him that they have an airtight case and he better start trying to cut the best deal he can under the circumstances.

A signed confession is elicited, or the case with what evidence is present gets shot up to county, and in all probability a plea arrangement is worked out with the DA. 90%+ of criminal convictions stem from plea agreements, so it would abnormal in the extreme to actually HAVE to present evidence from the rape kit at trial.

Given those details making up the script for the vast majority of rape convictions, why in the blazing blue F*** would you go on to process the rape kit from a case that’s already been plead while you have DNA evidence from murder scenes piling up at the lab? Log the kit, store it, and process it if there is a successful appeal of the conviction (or if crime ever ceases entirely and your crime-lab has all the free time in the world to work on solved cases).

It’s still good old fashioned interviewing skills that get most convictions, and at the end of the day a signed confession or a plea is more evidentiary bang for your buck.


46 posted on 03/14/2014 4:13:20 AM PDT by jameslalor
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To: cloudmountain

I appreciate the compliment. But, I had to look that up even though I’ve watched Law & Order a thousand times. I knew the first several words and I searched on that.


47 posted on 03/14/2014 5:30:26 AM PDT by moovova
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To: MrEdd

Thirty six a day? Not surprising (sad, but not surprising) there might be so many kits used, but outrageous that the evidence was sidelined. I wonder how many women were pressured to recant?


48 posted on 03/14/2014 5:36:38 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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49 posted on 03/14/2014 5:39:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I think the Republican pols are too afraid of being “uncivil” or being called “racist” to actually point out the blatant malfeasance and incompetence of Democrats.


50 posted on 03/14/2014 5:41:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GeronL

“disparate impact” proves racism.


51 posted on 03/14/2014 5:42:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Unc1e_Ivan

You would think, strictly statistically thinking, that the second number would, during some year, be greater than zero.


52 posted on 03/14/2014 5:43:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cloudmountain

It is also very interesting to find out how many rapes are NEVER reported because the women get humiliated by the authorities.

I would bet that over 50% of today’s cases are not reported for that reason alone, and in years past, the % was much higher.


53 posted on 03/14/2014 9:39:42 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: lavaroise

Women have been indoctrinated for years about NOT having weapons in the house to protect themselves.....

“Call 911”.

Before you jeer me over that statement, let me tell you a couple of stories.

I called 911 when I lived in Grass Valley, Nevada County, in N California. It was almost 11 PM, and a car had just gone onto my property, hit a boulder about 1/2 the size of a VW and proceeded to put the boulder into my driveway, which blocked such, & continue into my horse fencing, damaging about 100 feeet of fencing-with a horse inside.

I didn’t get a dispatcher in Nevada county-—not even Yuba County—or Placer County, which all were adjacent counties.

I got a female dispatcher in Sacramento County—about 60 miles away. She did NOT know where Grass Valley was-—she did NOT know even where Nevada County was. She was clueless. Meanwhile, the 2 druggies are trying to exit the property, high as a kite & staggering around on my property.

I finally hung up & dialed directly to the Nevada County Sheriff. That got me some assistance.

Then I moved to N Nevada, about 40 miles east of Carson City. I called 911 again in early morning on Dec 31 when I found a car that was inside my horse pasture, with no sign of a driver. I didn’t get the local Sheriff-—I got the Nevada Highway Patrol——in TONAPAH—which is about 200 miles south from where I live.

NOW—I have memorized the local Sheriff’s dispatch number.

Alot can happen when you are depending on ‘911’.

I say get a shotgun & learn how to use it.


54 posted on 03/14/2014 9:50:45 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
It is also very interesting to find out how many rapes are NEVER reported because the women get humiliated by the authorities.
Do you think that women still get humiliated by the authorities? "Olivia Benson" would scream out YES, but that's an OLD attitude from the scriptwriters who MUST put in that stuff, whether it's true or not.
It IS a television show and the producers ARE out to make a buck. NO ONE loves bashing the authorities more than HollySleazywood.
Besides, there are BEAUCOUP women cops these days.

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I would bet that over 50% of today’s cases are not reported for that reason alone, and in years past, the % was much higher.
What leads you to make THAT bet?
I don't have a CLUE. I distrust the Democrats who are in control of our politics. I distrust aholes like Camilia Paglia who distrust men and has never said differently. Well, I last heard her years ago and got BORED with her same old rhetoric. Lol. Besides, she always has to be right--always. I was old enough BACK THEN to hear the occasional holes in her rhetoric.

The Numbers would be higher since we have MORE people in this country. In 1800 this planet reached one billion. Now we top SIX billion. More people = more crime...in total numbers.
But I bet that things, percentage wise, are the same as they were 1000, no 10,000 years ago--since the "dawn of man." (Music here from "SPACE ODYSSEY" and the ape holds up weapon.)

55 posted on 03/14/2014 9:57:22 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL

Ah, my /sarc detector was broken. My bad.


56 posted on 03/14/2014 11:11:44 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: ridesthemiles

This is sad. Reminds me of the Ukraine case. Much similar to the way planned parenthood functions.

Basicslly if you talk to. ukrainians about the rape of their country in terms of fighting WWIII, you will not get their support. They just want a bit of money and change the language to a social issue of economics, marxist style.

So, if a pimped individual does not want to declare war on the pimp, then they are kind of determined to end up falling back in the arms of the pimp and feeding it information, betraying the investigating cop by keeping a relationship with the pimp , or a “feeling”, in the dark.

Also, the less gunning a person does, the more they are afraid of making bad impressions to authorities or a social network around. This is the kind of psy ops that I believe this potemkin 911 business is all about.

It is scary to think that 911 has become a centralization tool that does not deliver. indeed, rely on local sheriff.


57 posted on 03/14/2014 12:22:25 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: MrB

Or willing collaborators. Which there is more evidence of coming about daily now. Not on this specifically, but in general.


58 posted on 03/14/2014 3:07:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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