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False flag ops in Ukraine and Syria

Posted on 03/15/2014 11:05:45 AM PDT by varmintman

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To: dforest
You are right, and American idiots that still think we are good guys are delusional fools.

I think the American people are still "the good guys" for the most part. The men that have hijacked the US government through fraud and treachery are definitely "the bad guys". Its important to realize the distinction.

The dilemma is do good people cease to be good when they support a bad government, even if they've been tricked into doing so?

21 posted on 03/15/2014 12:30:39 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: varmintman

Blame Ukraine for Putin’s aggression. Smart.


22 posted on 03/15/2014 12:36:49 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Agreed, but how do they find out they are fooled? They do not recognize the distinction.

I see it here on FR.


23 posted on 03/15/2014 12:42:22 PM PDT by dforest
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To: varmintman

The real question is how much FR is to become a forum for Russian propaganda?


24 posted on 03/15/2014 1:22:19 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: varmintman

The call is real, but it’s about two European officials speculating about hearsay from a woman named Olga who claims to have evidence that it was the protestors who had themselves shot. Not exactly an admission of guilt there.

And it was Russia Today (New Pravda) who leaked this call, I wonder where they got it from?


25 posted on 03/15/2014 1:24:05 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: dforest
Agreed, but how do they find out they are fooled?

Just keep plugging away on here, other sites, with people you know, with people you meet. Some people are lost. They'll never wake up. They can't admit they made a mistake, they're too set in their ways, they're too afraid of the truth or they're paid shills. Forget about them. Don't worry about convincing everyone but still engage the debate. Somebody will see it and get the idea to do more research or maybe their on the fence or maybe they are aware but just need to know that there a other people out there like them. Every little bit helps.

26 posted on 03/15/2014 2:05:06 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Corporate Democrat
Paet notes in the conversation that the new "government" in Kiev is showing no inclination to investigate the snipings, noting that is telling. I've looked at fifteen or twenty different takes on this one and nobody is claiming any reason to think Yanukovich or Russians had anything to do with it.

Last major case I remember reading about of guys being willing to kill some halfway large number of their own people to achieve some end was the thing about SlicKKK KKKlintler, Izetbegovic, and their 5000 dead bodies.

27 posted on 03/15/2014 8:02:00 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Maybe you can refresh my memory. Remember back to 2009 when Obama took over. There is a country, probably the first one Obama meddled in, where the Obama admin was backing the Marxist who wanted to rewrite their Constitution. The marxist was chased out.

So much has happened since then, that I can’t remember which country that was.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 3:53:23 AM PDT by dforest
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Found it. Meddling in Honduras. That was the first inkling of what was to follow with the Obama regime.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2009/11/06/brokered-honduran-pact-fails-end-crisis

Remember, the Obama regime pro claimed they would never meddle in the affairs of other countries. We know now that meant they planned to meddle constantly for their real purpose, the NWO.


29 posted on 03/16/2014 4:07:09 AM PDT by dforest
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