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Doomed (FL370) Airliner Pilot Was Political Fanatic
Daily Mail ^ | 15 March 2014 | SIMON PARRY

Posted on 03/15/2014 6:11:45 PM PDT by gandalftb

Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was an ‘obsessive’ supporter of Malaysia’s opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim. And hours before the doomed flight left Kuala Lumpur, Shah attended a controversial trial in which Ibrahim was jailed for five years.

It was against this background that, seven hours later, he took control of a Boeing 777-200 bound for Beijing and carrying 238 passengers and crew.

But this newspaper can reveal that investigators had already spent much of last week examining two laptops removed from Shah’s home.

One laptop taken away is thought to contain data from the flight simulator while a second contained little information. Zaharie’s personal laptop was not found, and is thought to have been with him in the cockpit of the plane, the source said.

‘Colleagues made it clear to us that he was someone who held strong political beliefs and was strident in his support for Anwar Ibrahim,’ another investigation source said. ‘We were told by one colleague he was obsessed with politics.’

Zaharie is believed to be separated or divorced from his wife although they share the same house.

A satellite was able to pick up a ‘ping’ from the plane until 08:11 local time, more than seven hours after it lost radar contact, although it was unable to give a precise location.

Mr Razak went on to say that based on this new data, investigators ‘have determined the plane’s last communication with a satellite was in one of two possible corridors – north from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan through to northern Thailand, and south from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: flight370; iran; malasia; malaysia; maybealittlebloooo; mh370; pilot; subhuman; waronterror; worldisgoingbonkers
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Here is the location arc from that Sat ping (thanks to Meet the New Boss):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3133430/posts?page=62#62

1 posted on 03/15/2014 6:11:45 PM PDT by gandalftb
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To: gandalftb

http://www.carry-on.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/map-2.gif


2 posted on 03/15/2014 6:12:32 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: gandalftb

the ping is just a handshake that does not communicate position information


3 posted on 03/15/2014 6:15:29 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: gandalftb
A thread on a related article:

Did pilot hijack missing plane HIMSELF in anti-government protest?

4 posted on 03/15/2014 6:15:39 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: gandalftb

This sure gives Muslim pilots a black eye. Unfortunate. /s


5 posted on 03/15/2014 6:15:45 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: gandalftb

Was or IS (currently in a hiding place provided by George Soros)?


6 posted on 03/15/2014 6:17:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: gandalftb

Post 2 is the radar range of the Air Traffic and military radar in the area.

YPCC is the Cocos Islands that have an 8,000 foot runway. They only receive an average of 1 flight per day and their radar was likely turned off for FL370.

The pilot would have known that and could have steered for the radar gap between Diego Garcia and Leartmonth and headed for the southern India Ocean.

This is the only explanation that well fits the flight time to 0811. The northern corridor would have put FL370 well over land and they would have been spotted by now.

So, I withdraw my theory of the pilot choosing to attack India, running out of fuel and ditching in the Bay of Bengal. FL370 had much more fuel and flight time than thought.


7 posted on 03/15/2014 6:20:22 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: gandalftb
Muslims.

Peace, joy, kindness, and selflessness just seem to follow them wherever they go.

8 posted on 03/15/2014 6:21:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: bigbob

Sort of, the Immersat ping, by analysis reveals the range from the satellite. That’s how the arc was determined, see the link.


9 posted on 03/15/2014 6:22:03 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: gandalftb

bkm


10 posted on 03/15/2014 6:22:26 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: gandalftb

This is the ‘video offensive to Islam therefore Benghazi’ tack I’ve been waiting for someone to cough up.

If you’re a suicide bomber, you don’t choose targets 7 hours away that you have to run to like a Kentucky whiskey smuggler.


11 posted on 03/15/2014 6:24:40 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: gandalftb

Here is a link to the Aussie military radar:

https://www.airforce.gov.au/docs/JORN_Fact_Sheet.pdf

Laverton would have seen them as they operate 24/7. Overlaying the Laverton range again reveals a gap that FL370 could have slipped through.

My theory de jure is pilot anti-government political protest/government embarrassment, marriage relationship anger, and then suicide.


12 posted on 03/15/2014 6:27:07 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: gandalftb

Hijacking per se is not the problem.

Flying it without being seen by massive standardized global overlapping ELINT is the problem, as well as where to park it.

IF the pilot did this, it wasn’t over a political snit. He must have been involved with others that included cloaking techies, and at least one nation-state. And that means this was long planned.


13 posted on 03/15/2014 6:27:37 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: gandalftb

The pilot must be a leftist. If he was a conservative it would have been in the headline.


14 posted on 03/15/2014 6:27:48 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Misterioso

A few months ago I had a bit of an argument about allowing a Muslim to be your doctor.

This suspicion of the Muslim pilot simply reinforces my position.

It’s going to be way to easy to die under the care of a Muslim doctor.


15 posted on 03/15/2014 6:28:27 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: gandalftb

How exactly can this plane hide if it did not crash?


16 posted on 03/15/2014 6:29:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: txhurl

Agreed, 7 hours of flight time would put FL370 well beyond any jihadist target in India. This was not Muslim terrorism but lone wolf political protest.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 6:29:47 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: Misterioso

- Hoo boy - another lying creepy sleezebag Muzzie like Obama and Son…….


18 posted on 03/15/2014 6:31:09 PM PDT by devolve (- Tell VLADIMER after my DEFECTION I have more FLEXIBILITY -- I need more SPACE - BHO Jr -)
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To: gandalftb
My theory de jure is pilot anti-government political protest/government embarrassment, marriage relationship anger, and then suicide.

And to spruce up your theory de jur, we could throw in a struggle in the cockpit with the co- pilot who wasn't ready to die. That's why the plane was all over the place. - tom

19 posted on 03/15/2014 6:35:18 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: Reeses

Brian Ross already checked, no tea party affiliation, he was devastated


20 posted on 03/15/2014 6:37:09 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: gandalftb

Another Allah Fubar!


21 posted on 03/15/2014 6:37:15 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: maggief; hoosiermama

ping


22 posted on 03/15/2014 6:38:24 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: GeronL

It couldn’t hide. No nation would keep its landing a secret.

India has a good 24/7 air traffic and military radar system, so does Burma and Thailand.

FL370 could have tailed another airliner and hidden in its radar shadow. But there would no point to a jihadist doing so with out making an attack which hasn’t happened.

The motive of the pilot was to evade detection. That happened as soon as FL370 reached flight elevation and turned off the ACARS. He turned off the transponder as soon as he was beyond Kuala Lampur air traffic control.

All the data points to a run to the S Indian Ocean to ditch where the waters run deeper than out subs can go.


23 posted on 03/15/2014 6:38:31 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: gandalftb

Who is providing info about theses pings?


24 posted on 03/15/2014 6:40:22 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: gandalftb

That’s why the ton of gold in cargo theory is the most likely to me right now. It serves all of Occam’s Razor requirements.

There may be additional advantages to some nations woven into this hijacking, but gold ‘moonshining’ rings the most logical. The flight simulators indicate serious intent to take the money and run.

(Woo, hoo hoo!)


25 posted on 03/15/2014 6:43:13 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Talisker

We’re on the same page....just posted about cloaking technology on another thread.


26 posted on 03/15/2014 6:44:50 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Capt. Tom

My bad, I meant theory du jour :):).

I agree, there was possibly a fight in the cockpit. I believe the reason for the ascent to 40,000 feet + was to kill the passengers and crew and possibly the co-pilot stepping out of the cockpit.

The pilot can dump the cabin pressure but the limit switches stop the dump at an effective elevation of 14,000 feet. There would be a leakage of about 1,000 - 1,500 feet per minute rendering everyone unconscious in about 6 minutes, dead in 10-15 minutes.


27 posted on 03/15/2014 6:45:34 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: gandalftb

What about the drop down masks?


28 posted on 03/15/2014 6:47:25 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

Here is the statement from Immersat on the pings:

http://www.inmarsat.com/news/inmarsat-statement-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370/


29 posted on 03/15/2014 6:48:39 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: gandalftb

There is no reason to fly 4,000 miles to commit suicide by crashing where you will never be found.

1. Turning off the ACARS and the transponder are the act of someone trying to evade detection.

2. The route choses was to fly back over Malaysia to the western air corridor.

I think there is a lot of information that we don’t have about the passenger list and/or the pilot and his political idol.


30 posted on 03/15/2014 6:49:48 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: bigbob
the ping is just a handshake that does not communicate position information

Question: The transponder sends a signal that identifies the specific plane sending the signal, but what about these "pings" from the engine? Can they tell for certain they are from a specific plane, or could the pings be coming from any aircraft in that area?

31 posted on 03/15/2014 6:50:38 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: USAF80

Yes, the passengers could breath for awhile if they were seated. However, the oxygen is supplemental and would soon run out at 40,000 + with everyone needing full air.


32 posted on 03/15/2014 6:50:51 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: bigbob

Is it known why the connection was not established with the satellite? MH370 pinged, why didn’t satellite answer and establish a connection?

Maybe it did but because pilot had disabled ACARS there was no data to send.


33 posted on 03/15/2014 6:52:31 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: Bryan24

READ this article! >

Pilot sounds like he had sympathy for this guy....

LOOK who else is on this guys side ! ! !

THERE IS A LOT TO THIS STORY WE ARE NOT BEING TOLD !

http://anwaribrahimblog.com/2010/02/15/anwar-ibrahim-to-address-7th-us-islamic-world-forum-in-doha/


34 posted on 03/15/2014 6:53:58 PM PDT by cuspofcommonsense
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To: Royal Wulff

The official story is the sat was receiving MAL craft pings but the airline didn’t subscribe to the service.

Someone also mentioned a few days ago that engaging the landing gear sends a ping.. and no such ping was ever received.


35 posted on 03/15/2014 6:56:47 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Bryan24

The pilot was clearly obsessed with not being detected. He may have wanted the legendary mystery status of Amelia Earhart.

The pilot was irrational, but highly organized. His goal was to never be found. If you layout the southern route, they ditch near the Diamantina Deep at 26,000 feet deep.


36 posted on 03/15/2014 6:59:04 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: gandalftb

“...Shah attended a controversial trial in which Ibrahim was jailed for five years.”

Convicted, among other things, of sodomizing a male aide.

These jokes just write themselves. Of course, this being Malaysia, it might be a total frame-up.


37 posted on 03/15/2014 6:59:17 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: Talisker

I agree. The fact that this could even happen is a big, big problem. And there is no way any pilot could have done this on his own.


38 posted on 03/15/2014 6:59:57 PM PDT by livius
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To: gandalftb

I have a couple of minor issues with your theory:

1) Do we actually know there were marital problems and do we know the whereabouts of the wife and children. I’ve yet to see any reporting that indicates they are talking with authorities. Could they have left the home and skipped the country to reunite with the husband later?

2) There is no point in disabling the tracking systems if your intention is to drive the plane into the ocean. In fact there’s no reason to do anything other than overpower the co-pilot (this is assuming he’s not in on it) and drive the plane in the sea.

3) If this was meant to cause embarrassment to the Malaysian government, the bigger embarrassment would be to actually hijack the plane and turn it over to people who will actively work against the Malaysian government.

This sounds more like pre-planned plot to steal the plane to cause a problem for the government.


39 posted on 03/15/2014 7:00:14 PM PDT by gallandro1
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To: gandalftb

Unless someone tried to get to him before he could make landfall in India and he took the plane down earlier than wanted!


40 posted on 03/15/2014 7:01:11 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: gandalftb

I think Boeing is sweating right about now.


41 posted on 03/15/2014 7:03:46 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: txhurl

ACARS can be sent both via VHF radio and satellite - but Malaysia Airlines had not subscribed to the satellite version from London based provider Inmarsat.

Nevertheless, a satellite transmitter on the plane was pinging an Inmarsat satellite with empty data packets. And it is those that have allowed the plane’s position to be estimated on two tracks either side of the satellite.


42 posted on 03/15/2014 7:04:40 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: cuspofcommonsense

Very interesting link. BTTT!


43 posted on 03/15/2014 7:05:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: gallandro1

1) No information on the wife and kids, they are not at the house.

2)The point is complete evasion and disappearance. Why??

If there is no legal basis for charging the captain with piracy or any other crime because the blackboxes are not found.....the divorcing wife and kids can collect his life insurance.....

3)He is a lone wolf and they don’t play well with others because they are obsessed with absolute control of the operation.


44 posted on 03/15/2014 7:10:03 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: PLMerite

Here’s a link to the Wiki entry on Ibrahim. Seems fairly level-headed for that part of the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Ibrahim

Don’t know if it’s worth killing a plane-load of innocent people over.


45 posted on 03/15/2014 7:11:01 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: cuspofcommonsense

Well, well well, what a lovely group


46 posted on 03/15/2014 7:15:51 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: gandalftb

Here’s the flight manifest list of passengers:

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/mas/master/en/pdf/Malaysia%20Airlines%20Flight%20MH%20370%20Passenger%20Manifest_Nationality.pdf


47 posted on 03/15/2014 7:19:16 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: easternsky
Well, they're gonna make a movie about it..however, the title has already been used, in one of the classic British WW II films, "One of Our Aircraft is Missing"
48 posted on 03/15/2014 7:20:20 PM PDT by ken5050 (I fear a world run by adults who were never spanked as kids and got trophies just for participating)
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To: gandalftb

There is a report from a Chinese newspaper that the wife and kids moved out the day before.


49 posted on 03/15/2014 7:20:43 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: Balding_Eagle; Misterioso

In this case it looks like political, not Muslim fanaticism.

AFAIK, Anwar Ibrahim, the ex-PM the pilot is/was a supporter of, is no more or less “muslim” than the current Malaysian PM.

He’s been sentenced to 5 years for sodomy, which even if an appeal is successful would put an end to his political career, which almost certainly is a trumped up, false charge.


50 posted on 03/15/2014 7:25:39 PM PDT by expat1000
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