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To: SJackson
merely a pretext for sophistry

A pretext for outright lies as well. The Arabic word "Islam" is, as I'm sure the professor is well aware, the imperative form of the verb "aslama", meaning to submit. I can vividly recall learning this in college Arabic courses I took around 40 years ago. I and my classmates had been guessing, assuming really, that it derived from "As-Salaam" (equivalent to Shalom in Hebrew) or "peace".

And it did not take the European enlightenment and "liberalism" (in the classic sense of the word) to have the word become associated with "oppression" or "the other". That was well covered with every tale of kidnapping and enslavement of European sailors and coast dwellers by the Barbary coast pirates and other depredations by Islamic armies from India to the heart of France.

The "professor" is a bald faced liar.

2 posted on 03/17/2014 5:49:30 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: katana
The "professor" is a bald faced liar.

Thank you, you saved me the time of explaining those canards. Moreover, the philosophers of the Enlightenment were more interested in "freeing themselves" from all organized religion than they were concerned about Islam.

3 posted on 03/17/2014 6:02:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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Here is the lexicon entry for shin-lamed-mem (the root for "shalom," Strong;s #H7965). If you expand the discussion from the Genesius Lexicon you'll find that it includes discussion of the Arabic root as well. The root implies security, sufficiency, and wholeness and actually does not focus much upon submission. It is summed up well in the blessings of Lev. 26.
4 posted on 03/17/2014 6:10:15 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: katana

But your guess and what you learned seemingly to the contrary are both true. The root of all the words aslama, islam, salaam, are the consonants slm. Looking at Islamic jurisprudence shows that the concepts of peace and submission are inextricably linked in the Mohammedan mind — there are no negotiated peaces, only cease-fires of at most a decade “the hudna”, the only lasting peace in human affairs which Islam recognizes is the peace between conqueror and conquered, between master and slave, and spiritual peace is had only through submission


8 posted on 03/17/2014 8:17:36 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: katana; SJackson
If this SOB were any kind of psychologist or scientist at all, he would mention that in the Islamic world, pathological inbreeding has reached a level that is beyond Western belief. One's parents are cousins, one marries a cousin or cousins whose parents are cousins of your parents, etc. ad inf. Often, one doesn't marry just one cousin but takes her sister as a wife, too. Toto baby, this ain't Kansas.

Of course this leads to all sorts of physical ....AND MENTAL ... aberrations. For instance, in the UK, the number of tragic birth defects among their Islamic populations are actually threatening to bankrupt the national health service.

As I never tire of pointing out, Osama bin Ladn was one of 75 children begotten by his father off a succession of cousins, and Osama himself fathered over 70 children by various cousins. I, me personally, worked with Saudis who had 50-60 kids. NS.

The government of KSA has conducted extensive campaigns to bring in foreign Muslim women for their twitchy, paranoid, drooling, deaf, kidney-diseased, cross-eyed young fellows. It's a tough deal to make, especially since the fellow is likely already married to a cousin or two and the new bride can't leave the house unchaperoned, drive, or appear without the veil. Try selling that bill'o'goods to an attractive young Turkish, Egyptian, or if you got real dough, blonde Bosnian gal.

10 posted on 03/17/2014 2:10:44 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is very sick . Hold all contributions until we see who picks up the patient..)
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