Skip to comments.Ukraine: Neo-Fascist Leader Yarosh Vows To Destroy Russia's Gas Pipelines To Stop 'World War III'
Posted on 03/17/2014 1:25:37 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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So, he's probably not going to be real good buddies with Obama.
That’s why Putin has 60,000 troops at the border.
I’m guessing that the more committed Ukrainian nationalists may figure that Putin will continue to gradually slice off chunks of Ukraine, until Putin has what he wants, and what remains is too weak to do much about it. It’s another form of incrementalism. At any given step, the Russian agression is not “big” enough for the West to honor its formal Security Assurances to Ukraine, and Ukraine doesn’t have the firepower to defeat concentrated Russian forces in the East.
So, the tactic might be to blow the pipelines at Ukraine’s far western border, once warmer weather arrives. This cripples Russia’s economy, forcing them to cross the entire Ukraine, through a lot of hostile terrain. (To use another poster’s word) the opposition goal is to “tarball” ‘em. Ukraine lost something like 19% of its population in WW2, and still came out of it a subject country. My guess is that the opposition would accept 500k casualties in order to free the Ukraine. Assuming the Russians could maintain a 10:1 kill ratio (I don’t know that they’d be THAT superior in such a conflict, over the long haul) Russia loses 50k soldiers and their economy. I think Russia folds...
The risk is that this takes time: The Europeans, faced with the next winter and severe gas shortages, might turn on Ukraine.
“I wonder why they are wearing the old Buddhist swastika-like symbol? “
Its called a Wolfsangel. Also happened to be exactly the unit symbol of the 2nd SS division “Das Reich”, which had a nightmarish mass murdering history. These guys know exactly what they are wearing and why.
This is why I don’t have any preference in this fight. The Ukrainian revolutionaries are so anti-Semitic that I don’t care if Putin takes the Ukraine or not!
Yes if the Russians are stupid enough to try to take the whole Ukraine they will have another Afghanistan on their hands. The Ukrainians hate their guts. It will be a war of resisitance and guerilla fighting which will sap their bank accounts and will not be popular with the Russian populace.
Purin would have to kiss that pipeline goodbye and it would kill him financially. The last thought on the mind of Ukranians would be keeping the EU war. Putey’s name would be shite in all of Europe. He does not want that. He really wants the Crimea and to keep his naval base safe.
They don’t have a box for him to stand on?
It only starts if they have someone to fight. If these idiots blow up the pipelines they will piss off everyone.
I think you mean the Moslem Brotherhood. Hezbollah is in Lebanon.
“They dont have a box for him to stand on?”
he’s really a little mean man in every way
They are so ugly....but I must admit blowing up pipelines is a game Putin knows all too well.
Nothing however is as ugly as what seems to be emerging in the Ukraine as a new government. Nothing is this fascist and evil.
My friends in Georgia who were all about the new Ukraine with slogans, etc, during the riots are slowly and carefully backing away. As you can imagine they detest Putin.
They used to be major cheerleaders, and now they tell me "we hope it works out ok".
That’s kind of where I am too. I wish I knew people living there or had more experience. I am watching the Israeli media but even they apparently are not getting it right all the time...
Love it. Thanks!
I know. I find myself trusting Putin more than our own president. How much longer do we have again under this dingdong who makes me embarrassed to be an American?
What about the uh, gay dude and the uh, coke user? :)
This time is different though, Misha was a character whom many loved and supported.
Popcorn is on my grocery list.
One of the funniest news items I have seen was a Russian story about a woman in Serbia who was very old and had lived in the same house her entire life. Yet she had lived under 4 different governments. And a cemetary where her husband was buried, very close to her home, was a place she now needed a passport to visit.
Let him clean it up I say.
The nationalists are there but the threat from them is very much exaggerated. This had been a revolt against Yanukovich, led by the Russian-speaking Kiev, Ukrainian-speaking Lviv and supported by others ethnicities, Jews included. Overall, Jews are as split as the rest of the society, a Jew in Kiev or Lviv probably supports it, one in Kharkiv, Donetsk or Moscow, probably not. I have given a number of references to Jewish supporters on this forum, so it’s not a clear cut picture of “neo-nazis have taken over”
This overblown nationalist threat is getting to the point where it’s absurd. Russians call everybody who supported the revolt or the new Ukrainian government a “nazi Banderite” - including Jews themselves. Most recent example is singer Makarevich who was called “Jew Banderite” - a contradiction in terms if I ever heard of one.
There is a lot of media out there which supports at least half of the new government in Ukraine being very very far right and white supremacist.
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