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What Pilots Think About The Crazy New Theory That The Missing Malaysia Jet Used Another Jet To Hide
Business Insider ^ | 3-17-2014 | Alex Davies

Posted on 03/17/2014 1:37:17 PM PDT by blam

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To: Spartan302
Did the pilots simulator have a program on how to do mid air refueling?

Impossible!

61 posted on 03/17/2014 2:45:23 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Robert Warren Linville

Not arguing with your point, as one who once flew a Bonanza through the wake of a Lockheed Electra, but is my memory fooling me when I think I recall that the person driving the Airbus exceeded the structural design of the rudder when trying to correct?


62 posted on 03/17/2014 2:48:59 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: dfwgator
I'm assuming you're postulating that it landed out in the very remote sticks.

A few years ago, in Africa, a 727 (iirc) went "missing" when it was going to be repossessed. It was used as a fuel transport to deliver a variety of liquid fuels to remote villages.

Can't remember if they found it, probably had a plethora of tail numbers while in plain sight, but that could be one way to eventually fuel the 777 (for its suicide attack on Israel...) if they are too impatient to go the pilgrimage or beasts of burden route.

63 posted on 03/17/2014 2:49:38 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Logical me
There were 14 ULD positions. One is unaccounted for. Can someone tell me exactly what ULD stands for???

Flying With Fish ‏@flyingwithfish Mar 16 @bytebot We already know there were irregularities with the cargo.Not screened, beyond regulatory limits & one ULD position unaccounted for
64 posted on 03/17/2014 2:50:20 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: old curmudgeon

Of coarse, if you know the transponder was ahead of you you would only need two antennas to establish to vector to the signal.

Or, even simpler still, a directional antenna (yogi) pointed out the windshield of the plane, rotate the antenna with some means to measure signal strength of the transponder signal. Sounds very crude, but it could work. How do you think they find those radio collars/tags they attach to wolves, bears, sharks, etc.


65 posted on 03/17/2014 2:51:17 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Robert Warren Linville

That airbus crash was determined to be due to overly aggressive rudder response to the WT, not due to the WT itself. There was 5 minutes separation, which I believe is typical today.

Any aircraft needs to be mindful of WT, whether it considers it a flea or a monster. For example, while waiting to take off, watch the life off point of the current take off... and be sure to lift off prior to that one. Especially if you are small and it is big.

I’d still maintain that any WT more than a few thousand feet away in altitude is nothing to worry about... a mere bump.


66 posted on 03/17/2014 2:51:37 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: blam
After all is said and done, after all the experts have been given their face times on the major networks and after all the ridiculous theories have been analyzed from mouth to anus, ultimately the answer will be the simplist one of all...........

Kudos to the networks tho, the bogus video graphics that accompany each report certainly hold one's attention........

67 posted on 03/17/2014 2:52:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Spartan302

You couldn’t do any mid-air refueling on that Malaysian airliner. They’re not equipped for that.


68 posted on 03/17/2014 2:53:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: The Working Man

I would be interested in knowing if the pilot’s flight simulator had the software capability of following another flight.

Let’s not forget that the pilot had his personal laptop in the cabin with him. Did he connect to the internet during the flight? Did he have any software on the laptop that helped him avoid detection during the flight?


69 posted on 03/17/2014 2:53:31 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: blam

I favor the “northern route” (as opposed to the southern route) and this would give a good basis for how it’s done.


70 posted on 03/17/2014 2:54:18 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: RummyChick

Here is what everyone should be worrying about.

I believe the passengers and/or the Cargo were the target.

US doesn’t want info getting out there.

Freescale is owned by The Carlyle Group and Blackstone.

There are questions about irregularities of that Cargo.

It could be anything..including state of the art weapons.

There is no way I am going to believe the US doesn’t know what happened to that plane at this point.


71 posted on 03/17/2014 2:54:22 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: July4

What about the last big airliner to disappear like this - about ten years ago? It didn’t show up in any big city, in some kind of an attack. They STILL don’t know where it is.


72 posted on 03/17/2014 2:56:08 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: The Working Man
With the transponder on they could track the singapore jet with TCAS up to about 30 miles. With the transponder turned off, it would not be so easy.

Part of the transponder system is the TCAS system (transponder collision avoidance system) This system allows planes to ping other airplane's transponders to determine location and altitude. It's range is about 30 miles and it puts a symbol and altitude readout on the planes Navigation Display. The weather radar can paint other aircraft nearby, but not very well. The TCAS, however, only works when the transponder is turned on.

73 posted on 03/17/2014 2:56:31 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Iron Munro
Old WWII trick.

They used the same trick in the movie Top Gun, too.

74 posted on 03/17/2014 2:58:25 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Star Traveler

Are you talking about the 727 that supposedly only had two passengers.One of them was a Padilla. Dont think he was related to the terrorist Padilla...at least not closely related.


75 posted on 03/17/2014 2:58:39 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

btw, Padilla’s brother posted on FR about the situation.


76 posted on 03/17/2014 2:59:46 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Nobody wants to talk about any theory that results in a safely landed plane, because all those theories lead to the conclusion of mass murder of the passengers.

Once you begin to seriously consider a plane landed by mass murderers, then that puts an obligation onto all the countries as to how they will respond when the plane is found.

How can any country refuse to take the swiftest, harshest, most extreme positions towards a country that murdered an entire plane of passengers?

-PJ

77 posted on 03/17/2014 3:01:08 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: blam
Somehow or another I wonder if there might be a senator or a congressman behind this hijacking? I know that the Bible tells us to watch for corruption in the high and low places of our government. Someone sure can do some mighty big harm with the cargo that was aboard that plane and the twenty people who were going with it.

I wished I could remember what Glen Beck from the Blaze News said that was on that plane and how come no one is giving any thoughts to it.

78 posted on 03/17/2014 3:03:45 PM PDT by TEARUNNER14 (ABORTION=ONE DEAD, ONE INJURED.)
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To: blam

TOO much psycho babbling and not enough investigating!


79 posted on 03/17/2014 3:03:45 PM PDT by TEARUNNER14 (When you get older you pray your human plumbing will function well.)
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To: blam

Interesting theory.

Most of the mapping showed the southern route into the Indian Ocean or the northern route flying east of India.

One map this morning showed that the plane did have fuel enough to potentially reach Pakistan, Iran or Somalia.


80 posted on 03/17/2014 3:05:07 PM PDT by TomGuy
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