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War Is a Certainty
International Man ^ | March 17, 2014 | Jeff Thomas

Posted on 03/18/2014 12:09:32 PM PDT by DJ Taylor

Recently, an associate offered the following observation with regard to the likelihood of war in the immediate future:

“The big guys like to play chess with the world. It's the biggest game. The bankers need ups and downs and wars to make money. The military needs wars to exist. The politicians need both to exist.”

Whilst he was reiterating a concept we have discussed on many occasions, it occurred to me that I have never seen the subject defined so succinctly, nor so informatively.

Let’s break it down:

The bankers need ups and downs and wars to make money

Just as bankers increase their profit as a result of upward and downward economic fluctuations, so, too, do they benefit from war. It is not unusual for a given bank to finance those who would create armed conflict, and indeed, they sometimes bankroll both sides. Whilst banks have other means of making money, war is often more profitable than conventional banking.

The military needs war

The military-industrial complex is in the business of selling armaments to governments. Although armament sales may tick over nicely in peace time, they boom in war time. Therefore, any armament supplier will benefit from war. It matters little whether it is an all-out war or a series of smaller ventures. The object is sales.

The politicians need both banks and war

This is true in the sense that politicians need both bankers and an active military to thrive. Political campaigns depend upon funding. Banks and armament suppliers have long been a major source of campaign funds for candidates of the primary political parties. (If each party is well-paid before the election, favourable treatment towards banks and armament suppliers is assured, regardless of which party wins an election.)

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: leftistnonsense; libertardation; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; occutardation; paultardation; war
Food for thought
1 posted on 03/18/2014 12:09:32 PM PDT by DJ Taylor
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To: DJ Taylor

Not very satisfying food for thought


2 posted on 03/18/2014 12:12:43 PM PDT by woofie
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To: DJ Taylor

Only the dead have seen the end of war.


3 posted on 03/18/2014 12:14:07 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: DJ Taylor
Oooh, an associate said this!
4 posted on 03/18/2014 12:14:58 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: ClearCase_guy

Precisely. Plato, I believe.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 12:15:30 PM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: DJ Taylor

Wow, this is like saying since rain clouds produce rain, anybody who gets rained upon gets wet! Food for thought.


6 posted on 03/18/2014 12:24:37 PM PDT by celmak
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To: ClearCase_guy

The world will never be a Garden of Eden, but with a little common sense and a dose of the wisdom of humility, the pestilence of war can be greatly mitigated. Europe went nearly a century without general war between the Congress of Vienna that ended the Napoleonic Wars to the outbreak of WWI.


7 posted on 03/18/2014 12:40:19 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: DJ Taylor
No serious banker or politician wants war-- there's way too much uncertainty about what will happen.

Sure, you might make millions, but there's the non-trivial chance you'll hang from a lamppost or wind up waiting tables in Istanbul.

8 posted on 03/18/2014 12:42:33 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: DJ Taylor
There hasn't been a time in history without war. This is like saying, "The stock market is going to go up, and then down."

Regards,

9 posted on 03/18/2014 12:44:19 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: DJ Taylor

Not, I think, very nutritious food for thought. Here’s a different thought: People with their hands in each other’s pockets are not going to take them out to shoot and kill each other. The developed nations are now too interconnected economically to start wars. Plus, do you really think bankers and politicians want people to die in war so they can enrich themselves? How low is your opinion of these people? This is like the theory that there’s a cure for cancer but medical science is hiding it because there’s SO much money to be made treating cancer. No.


10 posted on 03/18/2014 1:08:09 PM PDT by Toucan Dance
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To: Toucan Dance
Plus, do you really think bankers and politicians want people to die in war so they can enrich themselves?

Hitler played that one to the hilt. Used it as the justification for the Holocaust.

11 posted on 03/18/2014 1:10:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Oh yea, it will again be the garden of eden when the Lord wipes out all things of man..nothing like a burning world for a reset...smile..


12 posted on 03/18/2014 1:11:05 PM PDT by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: DJ Taylor

Cliches and received wisdom. Previously digested food for thought.


13 posted on 03/18/2014 1:12:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: DJ Taylor

Simplistic. And probably a little too America-centric.


14 posted on 03/18/2014 1:13:05 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: DJ Taylor
Food for thought

Not really.

It is the same pap I have been hearing for the past 40 years and it was old and hoary then.

15 posted on 03/18/2014 1:14:34 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: DJ Taylor

Such an optimist.


16 posted on 03/18/2014 1:14:47 PM PDT by McGruff (They say the first casualty of war is truth)
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To: DJ Taylor

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition:

#35 War is good for business.

#36 Peace is good for business.


17 posted on 03/18/2014 1:16:23 PM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Toucan Dance
"... do you really think bankers and politicians want people to die in war so they can enrich themselves?

Are you really so naive as to think otherwise?

18 posted on 03/18/2014 1:28:57 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor

It’s the same kind of stuff the Occupy Wall Street crowd would’ve railed against. The party of war, blame America first, merchants of death, oil for blood, etc.


19 posted on 03/18/2014 2:01:51 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“There are seasons of our lives when nothing seems to be happening, when no smoke betrays a burned town or homestead and few tears are shed for the newly dead. I have learned not to trust those times, because if the world is at peace then it means someone is planning war.” – Bernard Cornwell, Death of Kings


20 posted on 03/18/2014 2:18:11 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: DJ Taylor

Not naive. Realistic. Very few people are that mentally ill and still able to hold responsible jobs.


21 posted on 03/18/2014 3:39:06 PM PDT by Toucan Dance
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To: dfwgator

There aren’t many Hitlers around, and I doubt that our poster friend truly holds that viewpoint either.


22 posted on 03/18/2014 3:41:09 PM PDT by Toucan Dance
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To: DJ Taylor

It’s not that anybody needs it, but it is inevitable.

I believe that it is more due to the fact that humans as biological organism, are ‘governed’ by the fractal nature of the logistic growth equation.

Just as stock markets may be described by fractal algorithms (and even possibly predicted - if you are professor James Simon); human activity is as well.

We are forever destined to repeat the economic cycles as well as the cycle of warfare and disease. It has always happened this way and possibly always will.

What I would suggest we change is the caste of the casualties. Usually, our wise and fearless leaders engage in the chess game of global politics and our hapless children are sent off to war to kill the children of our wise leader’s enemies. We have never really had a problem with the average citizen.

A far better idea for future wars would be to make sure that the first casualties of any conflict would be the children of leaders. They are the ones who vote for and have caused every war, and so their sons and daughters should be immediately drafter for any conflict they start. The draft should begin only after all of the children, nieces and nephews of our Presidents, Congressmen and Senators have been killed in mortal battle.

The first targets of our armies should be the leaders and their families. Not more hapless child soldiers of the voiceless masses.


23 posted on 03/18/2014 3:43:32 PM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: DJ Taylor

drafter = drafted
:)


24 posted on 03/18/2014 3:43:32 PM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: Toucan Dance
"Very few people are that mentally ill and still able to hold responsible jobs."

You are either very young or you have lived a very sheltered life.

25 posted on 03/18/2014 3:47:49 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Toucan Dance
Here’s a different thought: People with their hands in each other’s pockets are not going to take them out to shoot and kill each other. The developed nations are now too interconnected economically to start wars.

There was a fellow back around 1910 who wrote a book (the name escapes me) making precisely that point; that for economic reasons, there would never be another major war in Europe.

26 posted on 03/19/2014 5:27:45 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: aces

So...the world would be better off without us?...as the History Channel series “Life After People” suggests?


27 posted on 03/19/2014 8:29:34 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

Man definitely does not understand much, but if all we ever say in response to idiocy is lets talk nicebwill the contrast be drawn..
As far as the world being better off without humans, the world was created for us..God can makes worlds with a word..perhaps one day we will stop hugging the social to make ourselves look good and see the ruin of our ways..come Lord.


28 posted on 03/19/2014 8:50:51 AM PDT by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: DuncanWaring

Wasn’t me,but I think I’d like that book. If you ever remember the title, let me know. I’ll see what I can do about finding it on my own. Thanks


29 posted on 03/19/2014 1:32:21 PM PDT by Toucan Dance
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To: DJ Taylor

Neither. I am, however, deeply introspective and a great student of human nature as well.


30 posted on 03/19/2014 1:34:29 PM PDT by Toucan Dance
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To: Toucan Dance

Wilco.


31 posted on 03/19/2014 1:42:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Toucan Dance; LS

Courtesy of Larry Schweikart:

“The Great Illusion”.

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Illusion-Sir-Norman-Angell/dp/1602069387


32 posted on 03/20/2014 7:38:07 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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