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Vermont Democrats Labeling State's Single-Payer Health Plan a Failure
Townhall.com ^ | March 18, 2014 | Christine Rousselle

Posted on 03/18/2014 11:20:56 PM PDT by Kaslin

In 2011, Vermont passed the nation's first single-payer healthcare system, "Green Mountain Care." While the law was supposed to be fully enacted by 2017, it has become apparent that there's no solid plan in place to actually pay for the healthcare of all Vermont residents. Democratic lawmakers, citing missed deadlines and past failures, have begun to call for Vermont Governor Peter Shumlin to "shelve" the plan.

“The deadlines for proposing financing have been missed two years in a row now, so to me that’s very disappointing. It’s becoming clearer and clearer that there is no financing plan,” Condon told Vermont Watchdog.

The cost of one year of Green Mountain Care is estimated to be anywhere from 1.6 to 2.2 billion dollars. This is equal to the entire tax revenue of the state of Vermont.

Sen. Bobby Starr, another Democrat who voted against Act 48, told Vermont Watchdog in January there’s “no way” single-payer can work without new taxes. Indeed, no lawmaker has introduced any bill that would finance single-payer health care without also raising taxes.

It's foolish for Vermont to even entertain the thought of a single-payer system when its attempt at implementing an Obamacare exchange didn't go so well. Green Mountain Care is way too expensive for the state, and raising taxes is going to make an already business-unfriendly state even worse.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; greenmountaincare; healthcare; petershumlin; singlepayer

1 posted on 03/18/2014 11:20:56 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The cost of one year of Green Mountain Care is estimated to be anywhere from 1.6 to 2.2 billion dollars. This is equal to the entire tax revenue of the state of Vermont.

I hope they cc'd Obama on this ...

2 posted on 03/18/2014 11:29:01 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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The only rational plan is to hope for spare change.


3 posted on 03/18/2014 11:35:03 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Kaslin

This is why the tenth amendment is so important. Let the states experiment. If they fail, it isn’t as big of a deal.


4 posted on 03/18/2014 11:39:29 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Kaslin

Didn’t see that coming...


5 posted on 03/18/2014 11:53:09 PM PDT by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
This is why, as an 8th generation Vermonter, I am now a refugee in NH.

Vermont was a very conservative state, not having voted for a democRAT since Lincoln.

Then it was overrun by trust fund hippies that are far more dangerous to a culture than invading Russians in Crimea are.

The "peaceful", stupid lefties have destroyed Vermont.

The communists that have invaded Vermont and taken it over are no different than some of the factions in Ukraine.

6 posted on 03/18/2014 11:55:55 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Kaslin
Everything a Liberal touches turns to failure. It's just that some disasters happen more quickly than others.

Any short-term success they claim is the result of looting the treasury. Once they run out of other people's money, their systems collapse.

7 posted on 03/19/2014 12:08:01 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Kaslin

You mean there’s no magic healthcare fairy after all?


8 posted on 03/19/2014 1:11:04 AM PDT by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Kaslin; Liz
Democratic lawmakers, citing missed deadlines and past failures, have begun to call for Vermont Governor Peter Shumlin to "shelve" the plan.

I wonder if those RATS are exempt as well.

9 posted on 03/19/2014 2:07:09 AM PDT by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Mogger

I’ve visited/vacationed in VT in the past; as I understand it once the cities were hijacked they controlled the state.


10 posted on 03/19/2014 2:21:19 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Any short-term success they claim is the result of looting the treasury. Once they run out of other people’s money, their systems collapse.”

Thankfully here in NJ we’ve already reached the point of running out of money; we’ve begun downsizing our bloated public sector to compensate. The cities are paying a steep price, as they haven’t been self-sufficient in decades; they no longer simply rape the suburban and rural taxpayers as they had in the past. Things are falling apart, but that is necessary to start over (hopefully it isn’t already too late). The high costs here were tolerated because the high wages made it acceptable, but many of those good jobs have left permanently - not just to other states, but many to other countries altogether.


11 posted on 03/19/2014 2:24:38 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Kaslin
The cost of one year of Green Mountain Care is estimated to be anywhere from 1.6 to 2.2 billion dollars. This is equal to the entire tax revenue of the state of Vermont.

That's unexpected. Who would have guessed that covering 1/6 of the economy would require a massive tax increase?

12 posted on 03/19/2014 3:03:02 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Kaslin

So, at a minimum, it would cost the entire state budget and we all know it will cost a lot more than planned


13 posted on 03/19/2014 3:30:27 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Tyranny at the state level is still tyranny


14 posted on 03/19/2014 3:31:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Kaslin

The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged.


15 posted on 03/19/2014 3:32:49 AM PDT by VTenigma
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To: Kaslin

When will Vermont natives wake up and vote moderate, not socialist. Vermont is nice, but the hippies ruined Vermont.


16 posted on 03/19/2014 3:42:25 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (2014: The Year of DEAD RINOS)
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To: Kaslin

Its simple:

If its not free, no one is going to sign up.

Without that, single payer is akin to wishing for unicorns and the proverbial pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.


17 posted on 03/19/2014 3:45:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Why should it be free?


18 posted on 03/19/2014 4:52:06 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: kearnyirish2

That is why even states need a federal system that protects the bulk of the state from the stupidity of the cities.


19 posted on 03/19/2014 4:53:20 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Say What?
You mean Cal and Vt can spend to bankruptcy and the rest of the 57 states will be obliged to use our dollars to bail them out?
“states need a federal system that protects the bulk of the state from the stupidity of the cities”


20 posted on 03/19/2014 5:11:18 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Kaslin

What’s the point of single payer without free health care?


21 posted on 03/19/2014 5:14:55 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mogger

Yep, too bad about VT.

NH is a nice state, going in the same direction but much more slowly.


22 posted on 03/19/2014 5:18:55 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Lmo56
I hope they cc'd Obama on this ...

While he can read most words, I don't believe his comprehension if good.

23 posted on 03/19/2014 6:45:11 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: aumrl

Actually, I would like to see such a system within state borders that would keep liberal cities from ruining every county in the state.


24 posted on 03/19/2014 7:30:03 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

ah -my bad
a federal system within the state sounds like the way many used to be incorporated.
thanks for the getback


25 posted on 03/19/2014 10:33:33 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: freedomfiter2

“That is why even states need a federal system that protects the bulk of the state from the stupidity of the cities.”

In the end, majorities win elections; if there are enough liberals, then there is little protection.


26 posted on 03/19/2014 1:55:46 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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