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Pro-Russians storm Ukrainian navy base in Crimea
CNN ^ | Mar 19, 2014 | Laura Smith-Spark, Nick Paton Walsh and Alla Eshchenko

Posted on 03/19/2014 8:41:13 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Pro-Russians storm Ukrainian navy base in Crimea

By Laura Smith-Spark, Nick Paton Walsh and Alla Eshchenko, CNN

updated 11:12 AM EDT, Wed March 19, 2014

Simferopol, Crimea (CNN) -- A day after Russia claimed Crimea as its own, there are signs the uneasy standoff between pro-Russian and Ukrainian forces could ignite into bloody conflict.

Almost 300 armed pro-Russian supporters took over the Ukrainian navy's headquarters in the Crimean port of Sevastopol on Wednesday, said Marina Kanalyuk, assistant to the commander of Ukraine's navy fleet.

"They are everywhere here, they surround us, they threaten us," she said, adding that she was sure that Russian security forces were involved.

Kanalyuk said the 70 or so Ukrainian naval officers at the headquarters had tried to stop the armed men from entering and were negotiating with them. She said that the armed men had replaced Ukrainian flags with Russian ones but that no shots had been fired.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; navy; putin; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko

1 posted on 03/19/2014 8:41:13 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo; All
A question addressed to all FReepers: WHY is the US/NATO so interested in Crimea?

(I know the answer, but I also would like to know your opinion)

2 posted on 03/19/2014 8:48:52 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: KeyLargo; All
When news of the Pro-Russians storming the Ukrainian navy base in Crimea President Obama was asked for comment -- This was his only response.
3 posted on 03/19/2014 8:50:15 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: KeyLargo

Which is the greater danger?

Russia retaking Crimea OR the out of control US federal government, representatives and bureaucrats that routinely ignore our constitution despite repeated protests?

Just curious where people are at.


4 posted on 03/19/2014 8:50:40 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: areukiddingme1
When news of the Pro-Russians storming the Ukrainian navy base in Crimea President Obama was asked for comment -- This was his only response.

I don't care who you are, that's funny, right there.
I almost shipped my drawers...

5 posted on 03/19/2014 8:51:48 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Marguerite

I don’t think either the US or NATO had much interest in Crimea until a neighboring country put it’s troops on the streets.


6 posted on 03/19/2014 8:58:27 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Marguerite
I'll bite. Assuming that the premise is correct (that US/NATO is interested) it could be that someone realizes Turkey is in jeopardy (Turkey does at least). A Russia/Turkey/Iran axis would dominate the Middle East and the world economy. Check mate, barring divine intervention of some kind.

7 posted on 03/19/2014 8:58:44 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: KeyLargo

I’ve just been watching a TV footage from Cremea. Ukranian soldiers are defecting to Russia en masse on their free will. For those who aren’t, Russians render buses to give them a free ride to the Ukraine posing no danger to their lives...


8 posted on 03/19/2014 9:00:30 AM PDT by Altenkrug
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To: rjsimmon

“Almost 300 armed pro-Russian supporters took over the Ukrainian navy’s headquarters...”

“Pro-Russians”? Is that what they’re calling the Spetznatz these days?

Seriously, only CNN could be so gullible as to believe the line put out by Moscow that these are Crimean locals pulling off these commando-raids.


9 posted on 03/19/2014 9:00:59 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Marguerite
" A question addressed to all FReepers: WHY is the US/NATO so interested in Crimea?

Because they think it is 'doable' like Iraq. Besides they don't like another country acting like us in changing governments.

10 posted on 03/19/2014 9:01:41 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Marguerite

The answer, of course, is George Soros and Monsanto.


11 posted on 03/19/2014 9:09:46 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: listenhillary

“OR?” How about both?


12 posted on 03/19/2014 9:11:03 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Marguerite
The Russians can repeat these tactics allover Eastern Europe. Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, all or parts of these countries are up for grabs.
13 posted on 03/19/2014 9:12:23 AM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: listenhillary

I want to have a life like yours. Y’know, the one were you’re only able to deal with one issue at a time. Must be great.


14 posted on 03/19/2014 9:15:40 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia
What worked nicely for Putin in this case was that he had local discontent to exploit.

15 posted on 03/19/2014 9:16:02 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: ex-snook
Then, they learn very quickly that The Russians are not Iraqi's. They need to clean up around their own front porch before meddling in a family fight. There is enough corruption here to keep them busy for 50 years.
16 posted on 03/19/2014 9:16:50 AM PDT by sport
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To: Marguerite

Kanalyuk said the 70 or so Ukrainian naval officers at the headquarters had tried to stop the armed men from entering and were negotiating with them. She said that the armed men had replaced Ukrainian flags with Russian ones but that no shots had been fired.

First mistake. Start with shooting when some foreign force is forcing its way onto your sovereign territory. I hope we can remember that.

Colonel, USAFR


17 posted on 03/19/2014 9:20:21 AM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: ex-snook

“they don’t like another country acting like us in changing governments.”

We almost have a winner. But that’s not all.


18 posted on 03/19/2014 9:29:39 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: KeyLargo
Pro-Russians storm Ukrainian navy base in Crimea

As opposed to Amateur Russians?

19 posted on 03/19/2014 9:30:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Natufian

We have a communist in the White house. We are suffering under more crap now than the revolutionaries fought a war over to gain their freedom from an oppressive government.

I think that one situation is more life changing than the other.


20 posted on 03/19/2014 9:34:15 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Marguerite
Come on, Alex, what's the correct question?

21 posted on 03/19/2014 9:34:34 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

For anybody studying the NATO strategy in Europe since 1949, with a special analysis on the period since 1991, that’s NOT the right answer.


22 posted on 03/19/2014 9:34:42 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: sport
Your post made me think of this picture as a good way to represent what's going on...


23 posted on 03/19/2014 9:36:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

Soros and Monsanto are just the tip of the European financiers. People don’t know that Soros is a bought and paid shill by the Rothchilds who gave him seed money to start his scavenging of the western world finances. Monsanto is a very interesting company with it’s huge involvement, a la Ukraine, with agriculture. I suspect there is a higher up connection somewhere. don’t forget that USA itself is caught up in this web by way of the Federal Reserve, not a USA property, controlling our money supply and use.


24 posted on 03/19/2014 9:39:39 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: listenhillary
Which is the greater danger? Russia retaking Crimea OR the out of control US federal government, representatives and bureaucrats that routinely ignore our constitution despite repeated protests? Just curious where people are at.

You're not giving folks around here very much credit if you honestly don't know the answer to that question.

26 posted on 03/19/2014 9:50:14 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: listenhillary

For someone who’s got their hands so full dealing with domestic enemies and life changing issues here at home, you sure seem to have plenty of time to post a lot supporting Putin in the Crimea.


27 posted on 03/19/2014 9:51:33 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Genoa

This was low-hanging fruit for Putin....Like Hitler marching into the Rhineland.


28 posted on 03/19/2014 9:51:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tallguy
Seriously, only CNN could be so gullible as to believe the line put out by Moscow that these are Crimean locals pulling off these commando-raids.\

If you include a few dozen folks here, CNN is not alone.

29 posted on 03/19/2014 9:52:05 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: KeyLargo

Obama: “Wait till I get off the back 9 and I will issue another worthless red line proclamation that Igor will ignore.” Obama: America’s wimpiest president since Bill Klinton and Jimmuh “Billy Beer” Karter.


30 posted on 03/19/2014 9:52:43 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Natufian

Maybe I’m not a mind numbed sheep to be pushed into war by George Soros and this administration over a piece of land that has been part of Russia for almost 300 years.


31 posted on 03/19/2014 10:02:09 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: RetiredArmy

Yep, Comrade Obama has already sent Putin an email telling him he will have more leeway once the Tea Party is destroyed with the help of the Rinos.


32 posted on 03/19/2014 10:06:50 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Altenkrug
...posing no danger to their lives...

Yes, I seem to remember something similar in Poland in 1939. Somehow, the Polish Officer class all succumbed to 'rapid onset lead poisoning' while in Russian captivity.

Sure, I'd most definitely trust Stalin's Putin's word, as a former KGB agent!

</sarc>

33 posted on 03/19/2014 10:09:14 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: KeyLargo
Breaking at BBC.com live feed:

Breaking News - Ukraine's interim President Olexander Turchynov gives Crimean authorities three hours to release "all hostages" including Ukrainian navy chief Serhiy Hayduk.

34 posted on 03/19/2014 10:09:57 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Genoa
Breaking News - Ukraine's interim President Olexander Turchynov gives Crimean authorities three hours to release "all hostages" including Ukrainian navy chief Serhiy Hayduk.

Or?

35 posted on 03/19/2014 10:10:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RetiredArmy

Newsmax

Gohmert: Ukraine Pits Community Organizer Against KGB Agent
Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:52 AM

By: Wanda Carruthers

The conflict between the United States and Russia over the fate of Crimea and Ukraine is a lopsided dispute that pits community organizer President Barack Obama against KGB agent Russian President Vladimir Putin, said Rep. Louie Gohmert.

“What you’re seeing is what you get when a community organizer takes on a KGB agent. It doesn’t go well,” the Texas Republican told “Fox & Friends” on Wednesday.


36 posted on 03/19/2014 10:15:03 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: listenhillary

Or maybe you’ve got a thing for Putin and you get upset when anyone critisizes him for deploying troops in part of a neighboring country with the aim of taking it over.


37 posted on 03/19/2014 10:21:09 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: listenhillary

Would you rather walk to work OR take your lunch?


38 posted on 03/19/2014 10:22:11 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Genoa; caww; grania
OK , here we go. I will limit myself to the timespan since 1990, the reunification of Germany and the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact.

It started with a huge LIE. In 1990, U.S. Secretary of State Baker made a commitment to president of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachev that if he retired the Russian troops from Europe, "NATO would not expand “one inch” further East, not even into the former German Democratic Republic."

Gorbachev believed him and indeed retired 380,000 troops from Europe, and of course as soon as that happened, the sly USNATO broke their promise as fast as they could.

From now on, the only goal of NATO was to push eastward , right into Russia's ribs. For that they have used every paramilitary fascist, neo-nazi, or far-right nationalistic groups to break the slavic countries, traditionally and historically attached to Russia.

From the Ustashe in Croatia and Bosnia, the nationalist thugs in Serbia, and now the neo-nazi party svoboda and the nationalistic russophobic group Privy Sektor in Ukraine, NATO has broken Russia's natural allies.

The reason why US/NATO ar so interested in Crimea is that the Maidan's unlegitimate "president and prime minister" in Kiev, promised them to denounce the treaty with Russia concerning the Black Sea navy bases and to expel Russia from Crimea, and NATO install themselves there. With a new base in Crimea and Turkey, NATO would have controlled the Black Sea AND the Meditterranian Sea. In their wake the Soros-kind of sharks would appropriate for big money companies the wealth hidden in the Black Sea bottom ...

Well, Putin read through them like in an open book, and shattered their plan. Now NATO enrages that they "lost" Crimea, which was never theirs in the first place. That's why Kerry, Biden and Rasmunssen are foaming at the mouth.

39 posted on 03/19/2014 10:22:41 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: jagusafr

“First mistake. Start with shooting”

Well, it seems the Ukrainian guys are not in suicidal mood. They didn’t have a bloody chance to escape alive, if they started shooting.


40 posted on 03/19/2014 10:27:39 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite
...NATO has broken Russia's natural allies.

... NATO Russia has broken Russia's natural allies former conquered territory's trust.

Thought I might correct that for you a bit.

41 posted on 03/19/2014 11:02:36 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Marguerite

Sounds like a great deal to me.....for the West.

NATO gets all of eastern Europe and Russia can rage about ‘losing’ all those entire countries that were never theirs in the first place. Russia gets to keep something that they already had and NATO can weep over a not getting their hands on a few square kilometres.


42 posted on 03/19/2014 12:42:11 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: tsowellfan

We’ve taken our eye off the ball in the Middle East. Watch closely there. That will be more likely the cause of me walking to work.


43 posted on 03/19/2014 1:27:43 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Natufian
USNATO can still keep the little leaders gnomes like Camerons, Hollandes ank Tusks under their thumb, but the peoples of Europe hate their guts and want only one thing; that the warmongering US, CIA and their Blackwater thugs go back to America and never return. It happened before to hear it, isn't so? When Charles de Gaulle ordered the evacuation of all US military bases from France, people chanted "Yankees, go home!".

If you think that Europeans forgot your barbaric bombings in Yugoslavia, you're deadly wrong. THE LAST THING Europe wants is a shodown with Russia. And for your information, Europe continent ends at Ural Mountains, Moscow, St.Petersburg, Nijni Novgorod and Archangels are European cities! They won't build Europe against Russia, but WITH Russia. Ukraine IS in Europe, 7,000 miles away from US. I really don't see how it's America's business. Besides, Ukraine isn't even a member of NATO, they must get the hell out of there.


44 posted on 03/19/2014 1:28:18 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

“If you think that Europeans forgot your barbaric bombings in Yugoslavia, you’re deadly wrong.”

As I suspected, there’s no way you’re an American. So, where you from and why do you hate the US so much?


45 posted on 03/19/2014 1:35:15 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Marguerite
You have me at a disadvantage since I have only been around since 1952 and cognizant of NATO since 1964. However, seems to me that the strategy since 1991 was to prevent Russia from moving back into those nations that I listed in my previous post. That's not to say that perhaps after the fall of the Soviet Union too much territory was given up by Russia by their measure, especially when you consider that the population inhabiting those countries in part had become or had been strongly ethnically Russian for a long time. Surely, Putin sees that in light of a very weak West, it is a good time to push back or counter. He has Russia's interests to look after.
46 posted on 03/19/2014 2:06:31 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: Altenkrug

I’ve read about what happens to POWs taken for bus or train rides by the Russians. Wonder when the mass graves will be found?


47 posted on 03/19/2014 7:59:15 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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