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Hedge fund honcho: Ex-Quiznos owners misled me
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Posted on 03/20/2014 4:12:04 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Hedge fund manager Marc Lasry says his firm, Avenue Capital, lost more than $200 million in a bad bet on now bankrupt sandwich shop chain Quiznos because the former owners deceived them about the health of the company, according to the New York Post.

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I have a difficult time feeling sorry for these guys who walk the line and often cross it when it comes to what is legal.
1 posted on 03/20/2014 4:12:04 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

You would think this was his first rodeo. Think the concept of due diligence was taught at his business school?


2 posted on 03/20/2014 4:17:18 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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There should be no “experts” who are taken by Enron, Lehman Brothers etc etc.

If they are doing their job, they can never get taken.


3 posted on 03/20/2014 4:27:15 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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When he comes up empty, he will ax his pal, obummer for tax payer money.


4 posted on 03/20/2014 4:29:24 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Shouldn’t that be “Ex-hedge fund honcho” or “former hedge fund honcho”.


5 posted on 03/20/2014 4:38:36 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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What about doing some due diligence? You know, like eating at a few Quiznos across the country at lunch time, look around, chat with staff, chat with customers? Peter Lynch would do it.


6 posted on 03/20/2014 4:42:39 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Isn’t it kind of their job to not be deceived? I mean that is what makes them experts.


7 posted on 03/20/2014 5:18:46 AM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

mmm, mm, mm, mm, malfeasance


8 posted on 03/20/2014 5:24:53 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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Fully agree!! These Hedge Funds seemed to always have an inside track to information. Looks like this one got too close & let emotional attachment get the better of ones investment judgment!
9 posted on 03/20/2014 5:33:50 AM PDT by SIRTRIS
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To: Red in Blue PA

Hey Marc, it doesn’t’ take a Harvard MBA to figure out that and $8/sandwich with 3,000 calories was going to be hurt in a down economy.


10 posted on 03/20/2014 5:37:56 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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Quizno’s lied to everyone, just go google the company, seriously they lied to franchisees... they bilked them for more money than they knew they could ever actually make selling sammiches. The whole company has been a sham, I believe less than 1 out of 3 restaurants of theirs ever turned a profit. It was a ponzi scheme, and its been common knowledge for years. If they were putting money into this company at any time in the last decade or so, they have no one but themselves to blame for not doing their due diligence.


11 posted on 03/20/2014 5:50:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Red in Blue PA

I can agree with that. I think the problem might be most have string of letters at the end of their name and nothing else.


12 posted on 03/20/2014 6:44:37 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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It is amazing how many so-called financial experts are simply lazy and push nonsense they call research.


13 posted on 03/20/2014 7:36:26 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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Appears to me most of the so called experts are just selling what pays the highest commission. Look at insurance men, they will sell you a life insurance policy without disclosing that it only pays if you have it in force for 20 years, are struck by lightning on the 7th hole of a certain out of state golf course while holding an eight iron.


14 posted on 03/20/2014 8:06:09 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: HamiltonJay

You are absolutely correct. Their VP of Franchising used to live across the street from me and he could be seen pacing back and forth in front of his house at all hours of the night talking on his cell phone. After he quit, I asked him about it and he said he grew tired of franchisees calling him at night threatening his life for taking their life savings. The principals at Quizno’s are scum. They negotiated ridiculous leases for their owners and when the leases killed the operator, they bought the equipment back at pennies on the dollar, renegotiated the lease, and made them corporate owned stores. This is a good lesson for anyone wanting to buy a franchise.


15 posted on 03/20/2014 9:28:27 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Unless outright fraud was involved, the only thing left to say is “due diligence.”


16 posted on 03/20/2014 7:39:28 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

That’s actually a funny thing. I’ve seen some very small and very large deals. The due diligence happens nearly the same in each. If the buyer is well-funded and/or egotistical it is near zero. I suspect that to be the case here.


17 posted on 03/31/2014 2:03:52 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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