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To: Lee'sGhost

I know you were trying for a grand and glorious gotcha but you fell short (again).

Thanks for the link to that book. I’ll look for it when it comes out. But I doubt that it will show anything new. Lincoln’s views on blacks were mainstream American for his time. Most people regretted ever introducing them onto our continent and were uncomfortable having them around. And his views on slavery were mainstream-northern - he favored the elimination of slavery and for blacks to just go away. There’s nothing unusual in any of that. That was the general sense of the times.

Unless you were a southern slaver that is. In that case you had no use for the darkies as humans but they made great pack mules. You owed your prosperity to their exploitation and weren’t about to allow anyone to futz with your investment.

Yes, it is true that Lincoln contemplated what to do with blacks in the eventuality of the elimination of the Particular Institution, and he explored to possibility of voluntary emigration. And you’re right in that it wasn’t an original idea but rather one that he read contemplated by Thomas Jefferson - only in Jefferson’s case it DID involve (involuntary) deportation.

Also, I see more than a few Lost Cause Losers toss off Lincoln’s quote regarding the right to revolution and, sure enough, you fail to understand its import.

Lincoln believed in the God-gifted right of self-determination. He understood (infinitely better than you) the process of soap box, ballot box, and ammo box. He knew that there must be a reservation for the pursuit of revolution - that it had to be for a moral purpose and by moral men. The southron slavers fit none of that description. Their motives were unjust, unholy, and depraved. Their methods were similarly contemptible. They exercised their right of revolution for a lost cause and mewling about tariffs or mis-applied “states rights” will never change that.


47 posted on 03/21/2014 6:56:53 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Lordy! A simple, “you’re right” would have sufficed. You said NOTHING that supported your original statement or corrected mine.

Nacham said: Origninally, Lincoln floated the idea of simply deporting all the slaves.

You said: Actually no he didn’t.

I just documented that, indeed, he did.

End of discussion. Just for once in your pathetic, misguided life admit you are completely and utterly WRONG. I don’t now if would help recover any credibility, but it would at least demonstrate a little character.

BTW...the book came out in 2011. No need to wait.

http://www.amazon.com/Colonization-After-Emancipation-Movement-Resettlement/dp/0826219098/ref=la_B004IA7HBI_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1395411133&sr=1-1


48 posted on 03/21/2014 7:18:21 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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