“The “state” (meant generically) “creates” a corporation. Whatever you propose as a corporation to the state is not a corporation until the state says so and the state might attach some hooks and strings before saying so.”
Thank you for the “You didn’t build that” summary.
I create a Corporation. The Secretary of State will review and then agree that my Articles of Incorporation are lawful and in order and will then publish my corporation as a recognized organization. The State does not “create” a corporation.
Once a Corporation is in effect, other State Departments then apply certain operating rules to it depending on the industry that it falls in, it’s profit, and it’s operating size. The Secretary of State has nothing to do with any of that.
The State creates nothing. The State only recognizes what has been created by the citizen.
At its root, your argument is that the Citizen exists because of the State. You are in error.
There's no need to think me for something I didn't do.
I create a Corporation. The Secretary of State will review and then agree that my Articles of Incorporation are lawful and in order and will then publish my corporation as a recognized organization.
If the Secretary of State does not do all that, is whatever you created a corporation or is it something else?
If the Secretary of State does not do all that, can whatever you created be a corporation?
The State does not “create” a corporation.
In your example, the Secretary of State and the other State Departments act for the State, and as far as I can tell, breaking the State out into separate parts doesn't change much, if anything.
The State creates nothing. The State only recognizes what has been created by the citizen.
If the State does not recognize what has been created by the citizen, is whatever the citizen created a corporation or is it something else?
If the State does not recognize what has been created by the citizen, can whatever the citizen created be a corporation?
At its root, your argument is that the Citizen exists because of the State. You are in error.
That's an argument you falsely attributed to me so you could disagree with it and me. I might say that people establish a state (meant generically, not just as one of the fifty States you apparently refer to) after which they might exist as Citizens of the state due to their establishment of it, and that subsequently other people can become Citizens of the state if they meet the particular requirements of the state.
Note that in my original post I used scare quotes or apologetic quotes around the word creates because I didn't have a better word to use at the time and it was close. I know that among the fifty States, the State doesn't make a corporation from nothing any more than you do (You don't "...create a Corporation." You compose Articles of Incorporation; you propose the formation and establishment of a corporation in accordance with State law). What other states (meaning more than the fifty composing the USA) may do, or what they may have done or will do in other times may be different.