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‘How We Got Our First-Grade Teacher Fired’: Disturbing YouTube Videos Show Students
theblaze.com ^ | march 25, 2014 | liz klimas

Posted on 03/25/2014 1:12:57 PM PDT by lowbridge

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To: skinndogNN

I easily held the record for swats in junior high and high school, I was getting it from all sides, the teachers, the principal, and the football coaches.


41 posted on 03/25/2014 2:49:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: mmichaels1970

Kids have been known to make false allegations against their parents.


42 posted on 03/25/2014 2:50:15 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: lee martell
I've been telling the FReeper community about this very thing happening to me, and many other colleagues, for some time now. It is a terrifying experience, to be a moral and upright professional being accused of saying or doing something you never did, and having the little liars completely believed and you not believed. I've had kids say to my face, "Shut up b---ch, or we gonna get you fired." The libtard administration of NYC (and apparently other cities), starting at the very top, handed this power over to a bunch of kids, able to ruin peoples' careers and lives at a whim. It's all a game to them. They have no appreciation for the profundity of the consequences they can cause, and I guarantee you if they DID know, they would probably laugh. This is the complete lack of empathy, the downright callousness of kids today, whose use of electronic means of communication deprives them of important social clues such as facial gestures or voice inflections.

They chose to party all night instead of studying for their algebra exam and predictably failed. Are they going to study harder for their next exam? No. They will file bogus statements against their teacher. Their teacher is properly strict and will not allow them to play with their cellphones all period, so that heaven forfend, they might learn something? They will compose statements while chomping down together on their cafeteria fare (likely paid for by you) that the teacher called them stupid, made a sexual innuendo, or something else guaranteed to make serious trouble for the teacher. Which never occurred except in the minds of these positively evil spawn. Giving them this power, which they horrifically abuse, is like handing the keys to a car to a 5 year old.

43 posted on 03/25/2014 3:17:49 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC
"Shut up b---ch, or we gonna get you fired."

A hidden surveillance camera on your person would have cleared things up in a jiffy. Looks like a button or ball point pen, records hours of sound/video on flash memory, and very affordable now.
44 posted on 03/25/2014 3:34:42 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: outofsalt

The parents are afraid of the kids. The administrators are afraid of the parents. The teachers are afraid of the administrators and the kids aren’t afraid of anybody.

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Exactly.


45 posted on 03/25/2014 4:16:50 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: outofsalt

The parents are afraid of the kids. The administrators are afraid of the parents. The teachers are afraid of the administrators and the kids aren’t afraid of anybody.

(((
Exactly.


46 posted on 03/25/2014 4:16:50 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: mmichaels1970
The consequences of removing paddles from the schools.

You want some union knucklehead beating your kids?

47 posted on 03/25/2014 4:18:02 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: SpaceBar

I don’t watch that odious program. Was there a plot line on that show about kids doing something like this?


48 posted on 03/25/2014 4:18:37 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: cloudmountain

SOMEone taught those children to lie.


Lying is in our DNA. We don’t have to be taught how to lie.


49 posted on 03/25/2014 7:35:19 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Lying is in our DNA. We don’t have to be taught how to lie.

You think so?
I try not to lie about anything.
I haven't lied in eons. But then I'm old and I know how fruitless it is to lie. Lies have a way of coming back atcha and biting you in the butt.

I also learned, A LONG TIME AGO, to say "Gee, I don't know." And that WOULD be the truth.

50 posted on 03/25/2014 7:38:33 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: NEMDF

First graders are what, 6 or 7? At 6 or 7, what child would even think about being so evil?


Children can be more vicious and cruel than any adult could even dream of being.


51 posted on 03/25/2014 7:46:02 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Straight Vermonter
You want some union knucklehead beating your kids?

A swat on the rear-end administered as it was in the 1970's would be fine with me. I never once in K-7 remember any child getting away with "gaming the system". Disrespect lead to a loud "pop" sound coming from the hallway. That "pop" not only got the offending child back under control, it let everybody else in that class know who exactly, was in charge.
52 posted on 03/25/2014 9:08:17 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: EinNYC

This is going to continue until #1. Teachers refuse to join unions or school districts that perpetuate this vicious behavior, #2. Until private and charter schools who do see the damage begin to attract a lion’s share of good teacher’s.
#3. Until parents and students themselves bring this subject to the public forum. That will include parents of the good students suing or exposing the harassers. Their child is being cheated of a public education due to lazy, low wattage truants. If we even have Truant Officers anymore, maybe they will need to be named, shamed and dragged into the courtroom before a certain class of people begin taking school more seriously again. The 47% of the population aka; the blissfully ignorant dummies will need to be told by someone like Oprah, or a currently popular bimbo like Beyonce or their peers that lying about your teacher is no longer cool. In fact, you and your pals may get sued for slander, and put into an alternative school.


53 posted on 03/25/2014 11:43:16 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell
Lee, I don't know about other cities, but in NYC joining the union is mandatory for employment. The union is doing extremely little to alleviate this problem except for collecting dues from our pockets. As for refusing to join school districts that "perpetuate this vicious behavior", teachers go where there are jobs. They can't be too picky about districts. Private schools don't pay anywhere near what public schools do, AND they don't have the benefits and pension that public schools do. Even your "good students" are kids, and kids tend to go along with what their friends and other kids are doing. Being kids, they do not connect consequences with actions. It would take an absolutely exceptional kid to put up their hand and say "No more!" They might privately think these videos and the whole attitude are wrong, but are intimidated by other students to keep quiet.

It's not only the "low-wattage" kids doing this either. It's any kid who is lazy, spoiled, and doesn't want to work at the level the teacher demands in the classroom, and/or who doesn't want to wean themselves from poor and unproductive classroom behavior, such as using cell phones during a lesson. They resent any use of the word "No" or the phrase "You can't do that." It's also kids who just personally don't like the teacher. So, in addition to hours of writing lessons and grading papers, now the teacher has to be Mr. or Ms. Popularity and emulate Cedric the Entertainer to boot. Believe me when I say that plenty of the aforementioned students are NOT from "a certain class", shamefully. They use their brains to foment vicious mischief when they could be using them to get top grades. I have heard recently that education program enrollment in colleges is down 50%. Why am I not surprised?

54 posted on 03/26/2014 4:22:40 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: mmichaels1970
Oh nooooo. YOU would find yourself up on charges of corporal punishment and lose your job. As a matter of fact, in NYC, Bloombutt's non-educator chancellor, an amoral lawyer named Klein, broadened the definition of corporal punishment to include "making a child feel nervous or upset". I kid you not. So any tone of voice which is not Barney-like can be interpreted as verbal abuse, i.e. corporal punishment. "Put that cell phone away!" Verbal abuse. "If you don't study for the test tomorrow, you are going to fail the class." Verbal abuse. "Johnnie, why are you late AGAIN?" Verbal abuse. And they'll get 20 of their little pals to write statements exaggerating what the teacher did or said, or even making it up as they go along. Guess who gets believed?

Who, exactly, is in charge? The students! Teachers have to tiptoe around them and court their "like".

Anybody thinking about going into teaching? Make an appointment with your shrink!

55 posted on 03/26/2014 4:30:47 AM PDT by EinNYC
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