Skip to comments.GOCRA Update: The Bloomberg Bill(MN)
Posted on 03/25/2014 5:52:48 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
Since this bill isnt going away we dont have the votes to kill it we are working with our allies AND the bills authors to transform it into something fair and constitutional. Weve come a long way, and there are still more changes to come.
Theres another hearing Wednesday at 2:15 in Room 10 of the State Office Building, and if you can come to show your support for civil rights, wed love to see you there.
The long version:
Last Thursday and today, the Minnesota Senate and House heard their separate versions of Billionaire Michael Bloombergs domestic violence bill, HF2328/SF2639.
As originally sent over from New York City, the Bloomberg bill was a disaster: it violated the due process rights, gun rights, and property rights of accused citizens. Bloombergs organization cynically believed that Minnesota civil rights and gun rights supporters would be afraid to touch a bill related to domestic violence. After all, who wants to stand up for wife beaters?
But thats not what its about. Civil rights are for everyone even those accused of horrendous crimes.
The fact is, state and federal law already deals with this issue. This bill is comes from a need to be seen doing something.
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In New York or California, this may not have been possible. But this is Minnesota, where citizens voices are actually heard and listened to and where lawmakers on both sides of the issue are willing to talk, to listen, and to find common ground.
Because of your voices, and your willingness to flood the capitol with maroon shirts to support civil rights (and probably because this is an election year), the anti-rights faction cant simply shove a truly bad bill through. Working with our allies and our adversaries we were able to craft language that fully protects civil rights while making the domestic violence prevention advocates feel that they were making a difference.
In the Senate After making civil rights supporters wait in the hallway for more than six hours, the Bloomberg bills author of record, Sen. Ron Latz, made a few small but beneficial amendments to the bill on Thursday night, that limited the transfer of firearms to alleged abusers where a judge had made aspecific, narrow finding of substantial danger to the household member seeking the order.
As a result of GOCRA attorney David Grosss testimony, and after discussion with the committees legal counsel, Sen. Latz inserted clarifying language that limited the order for transfer to parties who had received due process of law, not just an accusation.
As a result of our discussions, Sen. Latz also testified to the committee that he intended to support House amendments allowing for third parties, such as friends or family, to take physical possession of the guns ordered removed from the accused, providing an alternative to the forced confiscation and imposition of reasonable fees that would quickly exceed the value of the guns.
While were not a big fan of we had to pass it to see whats (going to be) in it, Sen. Latzs comments on the record were a good sign that there would actually be material improvements to the bill. Because lawmakers rarely make promises like this, on the record, without following through, we expect that Sen. Latz will keep the promises he made to the committee.
In the House The puppetmasters at Bloomberg HQ in New York City would have loved to dictate terms to the local yokels in flyover country. But Rep. Dan Schoen, the House bills author of record (who is not just a lawmaker, but also a professional law enforcement officer), wanted to ensure that law-abiding citizens were protected, and that due process rights were respected. He understood the concerns that we and our House allies expressed to him about the original bill.
This morning in the House committee hearing, Rep. Schoen introduced an authors amendment that addressed almost all of our concerns. It respected due process rights by limiting the orders of transfer to respondents who had already gotten their day in court, and where the judge found acredible threat to the physical safety of the petitioner.
The amendment also gives the respondent the right to transfer the firearms to a third party,as Sen. Latz told the Senate committee he wanted in the bill, and limited the orders to respondents who had had their day in court.
What comes next: There are still a few problems with the bill as passed out of the House Public Safety committee:
The bill lacks protections for the privacy of the third party participants It requires the third partys affidavit to list the guns transferred by make, model and serial number effectively registration (we believe that this data needs to removed, or at least placed in a sealed court record) The bill needs to provide the respondent and third party with a reasonable period of time to comply with the order, and to provide the notarized affidavit to the court The House bill will be heard tomorrow in the House Judiciary Committee:
HF 3238 Wednesday, March 26 2:15 pm.
House Judiciary Committee Room 10, State Office Building
Rep. Schoen told the committee that he will have additional amendments; we are hopeful that they will address our remaining concerns.
If you can come, wear a maroon shirt (especially a GOCRA shirt), and try to arrive by about noon to ensure that you get a seat in the hearing room. http://www.gocra.org
Good news, You are working overtime on this.
People who beat ANYONE (not just women and/or children) should not be able to have a gun. Read the statute on what constitutes 5th degree domestic assault-in most cases it’s far from anything close to “beating” anyone or hitting anyone, yet will be included in the bill proposed in current form.
This is like giving someone a DUI AND taking their car for being at .02 BAC ( only a driving is not a right )