Posted on 03/26/2014 7:46:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
If they teach what Jesis taught, then they are not evil. There are MESSIANIC RABBIS who I am in favor of.
Amazing you’ll give Muzzies a pass but you’ll exclaim the rabbis as being evil. Amazing.
Sounds like you should be on DU!!!
You could score great points them.
I’m a firm fighter against ANTI-SEMITISM as you can see from my many posts in the past - and present against it.
In fact, the most recent post I made against ANTI-SEMITISM ... was in speaking out against one such so-called conservative writer - namely, Pat Buchanan, a true ANTI-SEMITE that I totally reject.
Jesus never said that what the rabbis were teaching during his time was incorrect. He never said that the Torah is incorrect, fallible, needed to be upgraded to Torah 2.0 (aka The New Testament) or that the Oral Torah was wrong or incorrect.
The Messy rabbis, if you want to call them rabbis (without s’micha aka ordination, aka self-proclaimed ‘rabbis’), are wrong.
It’s pretty clear which side you are on.
I’m all for the MESSIANIC RABBIS but I’m totally against the EVIL teachings of the other rabbis - just as Jesus was!
AND ... I’m not against Jews or the State of Israel, but support both of them FULLY.
It’s pretty clear that you are not on the side of JESUS and the salvation that He brings to ALL ...including the rabbis you talk about.
Then why did not your deified rabbi say what the rabbis of his time were teach was wrong and evil?
Show me!
As soon as I get back from the store ... they’re hollering at me here ... :-) ...
I’m not impressed with press coverage of such events. Neither US Press or Foreign Press, especially the EU Foreign Press.
Multiculturalism is a disease, that kills nations.
Geert Wilders is correct to alarm against the dangers.
You are against Jews and Israel. How?
Because if what the rabbis teach is evil, then those who follow the rabbis’ teachings (Jews) are evil to. And Jews are Israel so that makes Israel an evil country!
LOL!
You be talkin’ out both sides of yo mouth!
LOL!
Read that again ... I said ... “AND ... I’m not against Jews or the State of Israel, but support both of them FULLY.”
In regards to the rabbis and what they teach ... the prime responsibility is on the teacher. The student can be fooled by FALSE TEACHERS unfortunately. And in many cases, and from what the Bible says, many of them have been fooled. If someone does become a teacher ... from formerly being a strudent, then they will be that much more responsible than they were before. Before the student was only responsible for himself - but being a teacher he would be responsible for all those I there who listen to him.
And “Israel” is the land, is the government and the people. As a “nation” from what God says in the entire inerrant and infallible Word he has provided through his prophets and disciples of His Son - the nation of Israel will be a nation before God, forever. The people of the land will be a people before Him forever. And the government of Israel, in the coming government and rulership of the Messiah of Israel - Jesus - will be a government forever.
And TODAY ... the nation of Israel upholds the values of the West in terms of the protection of rights for all individuals - be it Christian, Muslim or Jew. And we, in the West applaud Israel for being the shining beacon of freedom in the Middle East — the ONLY such nation in the Middle East.
Having said all that ... let me further put this in a religious context, versus the political context that many of talk about here. I’ve spoken about the issue on this thread - that Geert Wilders talks about - and he deals with it on strictly a political level - which I started out talking about initially.
BUT ... since some people seem to think that others always operate on the level of the “religious” — they think that Muslims will always operate “on the religious”. They don’t and Geert Wilders doesn’t think so either. Neither do I.
Christians don’t always operate on the “religious”. Jews don’t always operate on the religious. People separate things out.
SO ... that’s why on the “political” — I won’t attempt to deport rabbis because of their EVIL TEACHINGS on the religious level. They do have “political religious freedom”. Christians have political religious freedom. Muslims have political religious freedom.
To make it clear — Jewish rabbis, Muslim Imams, Mormon elders, Jehovah Witness teachers, Buddhist monks, Hindu swamis, etc and etc — are ALL perpetrating EVIL TEACHINGS which will lead STRAIGHT TO HELL.
But, once again, on a political level - I don’t advocate killing them, oppressing them, jailing them, deporting them or depriving them of any of the civil political rights that we have in this country.
Note that Jesus Christ says HE is the ONLY teacher and the rest of us are brethren (the rabbis are NOT teachers, at least not legitimate teachers) ...
Matthew 23 ...
1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples,
2 saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.
3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.
4 For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers
5 But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments.
6 They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues,
7 greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’
8 But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren.
9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
10 And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ.
11 But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.
13 But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.
15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.
16 Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it.’
17 Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold?
18 And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged to perform it.’
19 Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift
20 Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it.
21 He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it
22 And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.
23 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
24 Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
25 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence.
26 Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness.
28 Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
29 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous,
30 and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’
31 Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.
32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt.
33 Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?
34 Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city,
35 that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36 Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation
37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
38 See! Your house is left to you desolate
39 for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ “
I think that sort of sums it up!
I applaud your strong support of Geert Wilders. I’ve spent a lot of time in Belgium. I remember there was a mayor or councilman of Antwerp who declared that his first allegiance was to Islam, and that he would fight against his own country if it came to that.
I respect Wilders more than any current national leader. He means what he says and doesn’t tolerate PC or multi-culturalism.
By the way, I noticed on your map you don’t much cotton to the eastern half of these United States lol.
About the Eastern half of the country ... most of my life was spent in Oregon, with all the relatives in Oklahoma and Texas, and none east of there. So, my vacation times were pretty much used up by the time I got through there.
I drove most of the time and I varied the route over the years. That’s how I covered the states that I did.
Now I’m back in Oklahoma and will probably stay here ... the place I started out ... :-) ...
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