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Autism Diagnoses Surge by 30 Percent in Kids, CDC Reports
NBC News ^ | 03/27/2014 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 03/27/2014 12:44:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Black Agnes

And what kind of wheat were people eating in the 60s?


141 posted on 03/28/2014 3:18:04 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Black Agnes

thanks, I will.


142 posted on 03/28/2014 3:52:39 PM PDT by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: goonie4life9

Dr. Amen has done over 80,000 brain scans. Is that empirical enough?


143 posted on 03/28/2014 4:05:35 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: MD Expat in PA

I can cite sources that say otherwise to what you posted. No one has to listen or follow a thing I have posted....NO ONE. That people are so affronted by an ALTERNATIVE is interesting. I guess others are the ONLY ones with opinions/research of value. Have a good day.


144 posted on 03/28/2014 4:09:30 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: goodnesswins

The “try everything approach” is extremely dangerous. Some of the “interventions” cause extreme pain and some have even caused death. The analogy to treating other medical disorders is erroneous. If a doctor gives you a pill (or whatever) and it doesn’t work, it is likely the doctor made a mis-diagnosis. However, that pill is backed by a TON of scientific evidence that it works for the disorder - you just don ‘t have the disorder. In the case of autism treatments, there is NO evidence that these “interventions” work. In fact, there is a TON of evidence that they actually cause harm (from preventing access to effective treatment to death).


145 posted on 03/28/2014 4:12:29 PM PDT by goonie4life9
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Um, that’s not how science works. Science isn’t based on how many “things “ you have done. It is based on identifying controlling relations (e.g., B occurs when, and only when, A is present). This controlling relation is identified through replication, to rule out idiosyncratic events and biases.

Researchers have been unable to replicate Amen’s results which in science means his results and conclusions are highly suspect.


146 posted on 03/28/2014 4:16:59 PM PDT by goonie4life9
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To: goodnesswins

The diet is not an alternative. Autism is not a diet/digestive disorder and therefore cannot, by definition, be cured by a diet. Besides, the only empirical data available on the diet are evidence that it has no effect. What people object to is the willful misrepresentation of evidence.


147 posted on 03/28/2014 4:19:13 PM PDT by goonie4life9
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To: goonie4life9
The article was about......“The number of children identified with ASD (autism spectrum disorder)."
148 posted on 03/28/2014 4:25:24 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Black Agnes
I’m sure my Cherokee ancestors would have been surprised to know that their diet, which they’d eaten for thousands of years, was unhealthy.

Would these be these same; your very same Cherokee ancestors who at the time of the arrival of those “stupid” grain eating Europeans, were living a semi-Paleolithic existence compared to their European contemporaries? The Cherokee’s and other native Indian tribes who had not even yet discovered the wheel by the time the first European arrived, live alone a written language, etc.?

And their; the Cherokee pre-Columbian diet was heavy with corn (maize). While meat was the preferred food source, maize, i.e. corn was a very important staple in most Native American diets along with other wild growing grains and carbohydrate heavy root vegetables during times when the hunting was not so good.

And it (a maize rich diet) wasn’t so “healthy”.

Health conditions before Columbus: paleopathology of native North Americans

Iron deficiency anemia appears to have been widespread and ubiquitous in most ancient populations in the New World. The general distribution of the lesion corresponds with increasing reliance on agricultural products such as maize, which are low in bioavailable iron. For example, Lallo and co-workers evaluated changes in rates of porotic hyperostosis for ancient Mississippians in Illinois living in the 12th century and found that its prevalence increased dramatically in the transition from hunting and gathering to agriculture. They suggested that this was due to an overreliance on maize in the diet and that the lesions were most pronounced in younger children because of diarrheal disease during weaning, combined with poor diet.

Corn

Wheat

149 posted on 03/29/2014 4:25:56 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: goodnesswins

Then why did you bring up the gluten-free/casein-free diet as a cure? I’m only responding to you advocating something that, at best, does nothing, and at worst, causes harm. I would rather just discuss the article than have to point-out and refute people pushing useless/dangerous “interventions,” but it’s important to, because lived are affected my this stuff.


150 posted on 03/29/2014 8:46:17 AM PDT by goonie4life9
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To: MD Expat in PA

Compared to those rice eating SE Asians wheat and corn eaters were both dumb.

Here’s an interesting paper for you:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0015213

Kids who ate wheat based breakfasts had IQ’s ~4pts less than those who ate rice based breakfasts.


151 posted on 03/29/2014 2:51:33 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: SeekAndFind

Spoiled children can be called autistic or ADD...
Spanking is the Cure... and revoke privileges....


152 posted on 03/29/2014 2:58:46 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: PapaNew

I’ll defend PARTS of HHS. Some of the stuff that the CDC does is genuine good health and makes sense to do.


153 posted on 03/29/2014 3:11:43 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
Nothing government does is ALL bad. But these unconstitutional departments do more harm than good.

Healthcare in the hands of competitive and voluntary private enterprise would save a lot more lives, raise the standard of health care, minimize the costs, and make top notch healthcare much more widely available.

The "all or nothing" approach is what has got us into this mess. There will always be those who have problems affording healthcare but that % has always been relatively low. But that relatively small % is government's excuse to make a train wreck out of the relatively high standard of healthcare for the great majority. And in the past, before government got involved, those who couldn't afford it may have only been temporarily in that position. Others have been greatly helped by the many charitable people and organizations and hospitals.

The overall results of medical care in the free market have always been the better than anything else devised. The overall results would more than make up for the absence of a federal government run CDC, although if private enterprise was lacking there, I suppose the people of a state could vote to pay for their own state-run CDC.

154 posted on 03/29/2014 3:50:43 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
The overall results of medical care in the free market have always been the better than anything else devised. The overall results would more than make up for the absence of a federal government run CDC, although if private enterprise was lacking there, I suppose the people of a state could vote to pay for their own state-run CDC.

I see your point, but I have personal knowledge of programs that would not be run privately. There's no profit incentive. There just isn't.

If you ran 50 State CDC's, the replication and wasted effort would be incredible. You really need one central repository for this kind of research and epidemiology (the study of health trends and disease vectoring).

155 posted on 03/29/2014 3:57:32 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: PapaNew

Bottom line, I agree that it is not a Constitutionally-mandated activity, but I would argue this would be a good amendment to the Constitution. Probably would want to have seen that amendment about 50 years ago, before the current insanity took hold. Today, they’d charter a CDC Amendment that would call for ONLY gun ban studies, ways to convince people to go gay, and so on.


156 posted on 03/29/2014 3:59:41 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s a tough question. I suppose if you put it under the auspices of the military for the benefit of military and government personnel, then maybe that could be a legitimate way to keep running it. I think here, though, I question this CDC report about autism and become concerned when what was an good, effective effort becomes skewed with governmental/socialist agenda.


157 posted on 03/29/2014 4:13:08 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: muggs
Hello,

I knew a little boy that went to school with my son. Alan has Aspergers. I was able to attend every school party for their elementary school years. By 2nd grade, the party experience became almost more than he could stand. The worst memory of his pain was finding him in a corner, while my son and the rest of the kids were having a great, but loud, time and he had his hands over his ears and was crouched down and rocking back and forth. It was heartbreaking. He was, and is, in a family that is devoted to him and his sister (both have this) but it is incredibly hard. My thoughts and prayers to you and your family.

MOgirl

158 posted on 03/29/2014 4:29:14 PM PDT by MOgirl (STAND)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is there any correlation between mother’s age at birth and autism?


159 posted on 03/29/2014 4:30:44 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: LibsRJerks

That’s the hard part. The pressure of not knowing the future exactly, but knowing that no one will love and support him like you do. May God bless you.


160 posted on 03/29/2014 4:34:38 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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