The Ukraine

2banan | 3/38/2014 | 2banana

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International Business Conference at Ukraine in Washington - National Press Club - December 13, 2013

Victoria Nuland - Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasian Affairs December 2013, : US Has Invested $5 Billion In The Development of Ukrainian, "Democratic Institutions"

[FreeReign]

Yanukovych was impeached by about 75% of the Rada. Before Yanuk could be removed, he fled the country.

Why didn't you mention that?

I'll look for your answer.

[2banana]

Yanukovych was impeached by about 75% of the Rada. Before Yanuk could be removed, he fled the country.

Why didn't you mention that?

Are the people in power in Ukraine freely elected and legitimate or not?

Did they follow the rule of law for removing a leader (Yanukovych) and replacing him or not?

You can't have it both ways...

[FBD]

There's your pro-Russian crowd in Donetsk, Ukraine, underneath the statue of their hero Lenin, waving communist flags of their Communist heroes. Be careful who you cheer for.

http://thepeoplescube.com/images/various_uploads/skeet/Donetsk_Russia_Ukraine_13.jpg

[FreeReign]

Are the people in power in Ukraine freely elected and legitimate or not? Did they follow the rule of law for removing a leader (Yanukovych) and replacing him or not?

Again...The freely elected reps in the Rada impeached Yanukovich. Yanuk fled before he could be removed. The Rada then voted on an interim replacement and they voted to hold freely held elections in May.

Those are the facts, none of which were in your summary.

Why?

[Agog]

Those are the facts, none of which were in your summary.

Why?
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Good question. I too would like an answer.

[2banana]

Be careful who you cheer for.

I am not cheering for any side. I am just pointing out when you support and foster one illegitimate government don't be surprised if others copy you...

[2banana]

Again...The freely elected reps in the Rada impeached Yanukovich. Yanuk fled before he could be removed. The Rada then voted on an interim replacement and they voted to hold freely held elections in May.

Yes, of course - and the months of violent rioting, thousands of Molotov cocktails, torching of government buildings and killing of policemen were just yuts celebrating a Superbowl win.

The Ukrainian Parliament (after impeaching Yanukovich) just CHANGED the Ukrainian Constitution, installed their own interim president and took over all powers of the administration. Maybe there might be a vote in a few months...

None of this they had the legitimate power to do.

If this happened in America - we would be calling it what? Imagine if the republicans in congress did just this to obama. Yeah, you might be happy with the outcome (this time) but it would not be a constitutional or legitimate government

When America fosters and supports this kind of nonsense - don't be surprised if others copy it and throw it back in our faces.

[FreeReign]

The Ukrainian Parliament (after impeaching Yanukovich) just CHANGED the Ukrainian Constitution, installed their own interim president and took over all powers of the administration. Maybe there might be a vote in a few months... None of this they had the legitimate power to do.

The Parliament voted to change the Constitution. 386 reps.(deputies) out of 450 voted for it. That is within their power. Yanukovich, who abandoned the country and who was impeached for doing so (amongst other things) was not there to sign off on it.

So the parliament then voted and appointed an interim president and to set elections for May 2014.

[FreeReign]

Yes, of course - and the months of violent rioting, thousands of Molotov cocktails, torching of government buildings and killing of policemen were just yuts celebrating a Superbowl win.

You mischaracterize and simplify the events.

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