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Fear Of Black Pre-Schoolers: Halting The Preschool-To-Prison Pipeline
Black Star News ^ | March 28, 2014 | Professor Travis L. Gosa

Posted on 03/30/2014 8:06:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: A_perfect_lady

Thanks for your perspective on him. Unhappy situation that such people are “recycled” from these programs straight into a teaching position, eh? What a revolving door that is.


101 posted on 03/30/2014 10:18:50 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For that “take it with a grain of salt” quote...you can find studies to back literally ANY viewpoint you hold on ANY topic, so this proves NOTHING. Being an educator for several years (over 2 decades) black, fatherless boys have a LOT more behavior problems and to even refer them for treatment is viewed as racist.


102 posted on 03/30/2014 10:20:19 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I listened for 8 years to liberals pronouncing that Bush invaded Iraq because he had daddy issues, and I decided that I would never be like them. I therefore do not pretend to know a stranger's inmost self.

It is enough to observe that professors are notoriously naïve about real life, which is why the majority of the ones in the soft sciences are liberals. I can look at his CV and see the glaring lack of real-life work experiences. I can look at his photo and see how young he is. I can look at his degrees and see the focus on soft, useless academic diddling and know his brain and his assumptions show no evidence of having ever been challenged.

I will not presume any further than this. You may, if you like, but I will not.

103 posted on 03/30/2014 10:23:18 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1) Some black children are suspended, but most are not. Is that random chance, or is something different about their conduct? What might that be?
2) Child behavior problems often arise from violence, turmoil, etc. in their homes. Does Professor Gosa argue that black children are NOT disproportionately affected by that?
3) Another big factor is low IQ, which is known to affect certain communities more than others. I don’t see any mention of these factors in Professor Gosa’s analysis of disciplinary “disparities”. A valid study would compare the behavior and discipline of children from similar socioeconomic circumstances and IQ levels.
4) Gosa makes no mention of actual studies involving observation of children’s conduct. Bias might be documented by placing video cameras in multiple classrooms at multiple schools without the knowledge of the teachers, etc. Reviewers can then identify problem conduct on the tapes without knowing what action was taken. Then disciplinary results can be compared. If this show a long-term pattern of well-behaved black children being disciplined, and/or poorly behaving whites getting a pass, then you have something.
5) Comparison of disciplinary results alone indicates that the whole thing is bogus. Gosa is either an idiot or dishonest. He obviously cares nothing for children if he thinks letting them run wild is to their benefit, or that the other kids can learn anything amid chaos. He needs to take a seat and grow up.


104 posted on 03/30/2014 10:28:04 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let’s be clear, there is no evidence that black four- and five-year-olds are baby thugs.

Wrong...

My evidence is from my own experience. I was in kindergarden in 1959. There were three black kids in my class. Pure and simple, they were all thugs. They were 5 and they were thugs. I could go on about what they did in the class, on the playground and on the way home. But suffice it to say, they were thugs.

And 1959 was when things were "good".

105 posted on 03/30/2014 10:31:10 AM PDT by super7man
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To: A_perfect_lady
I listened for 8 years to liberals pronouncing that Bush invaded Iraq because he had daddy issues

No, he had "act of war" issues. The real question is, why didn't Clinton go after Hussein?

It is enough to observe that professors are notoriously naïve about real life, which is why the majority of the ones in the soft sciences are liberals. I can look at his CV and see the glaring lack of real-life work experiences. I can look at his photo and see how young he is. I can look at his degrees and see the focus on soft, useless academic diddling and know his brain and his assumptions show no evidence of having ever been challenged.

That's all well and good BUT, the problem is; they don't need to be coddled, understood and tolerated, they need to be discredited and defeated.

BTW, your observation sounds like you're describing Obama.

106 posted on 03/30/2014 10:31:17 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I'll stand by my diagnosis of chronic insular ignorance and reiterate that actually being responsible for teaching one full year of, say, history in South Central, or inner-city Chicago, would absolutely finish him off.

I say there is no "ignorance". He's fully aware of what he writes and believes. The only thing missing from his indoctrination, or CC, is attending a church that teaches black theology. I would bet that he might have attended a "church" much like Jeramiah Wright's church.

107 posted on 03/30/2014 10:35:28 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Chode

It’s HIGH above Cayuga’s waters....


108 posted on 03/30/2014 10:39:26 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: lacrew

As a society, we sometimes expect too much from our schools. Teaching is a no- thanks-job with little financial reward. Still, entertainers like Gucci Mane have no place in the classroom. Teachers: keep imaginary and real life gangsters out of the school building. Oh, and if there is time left in the school day, please teach something that might help our children dream beyond the block and the recording booth.

*****
In the last decade, Gucci Mane’s “art” has coincided with real life legal troubles, including at least ten arrests for drugs, parole violations, weapons, and attempted murder. In 2011, he pleaded guilty to throwing a woman out of a moving vehicle after she refused to have sex with him. After undergoing psychiatric treatment, Gucci Mane emerged from the mental hospital sporting a bizarre, three-scoop ice-cream cone tattoo on his face.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Travis L. Gosa

http://www.hiphoprepublican.com/travis-l-gosa-gangster-rappers-are-not-role-models/


109 posted on 03/30/2014 10:40:38 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: raybbr
no "ignorance"

It's probably the same kind of "willful ignorance" that prompts the black-yutes to loath education...because it's "acting white".

110 posted on 03/30/2014 10:42:28 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Notice the stats shift?

Talks about the percent of blacks suspended then says total percent over nonviolence. What’s the percent of black violence suspensions versus white?

The better question is why whites, asians, and hispanics capable of better behavior?


111 posted on 03/30/2014 10:43:07 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Hoodat
"Skin color plays no role in any of that."

Skin color has now been forced into a binary "spectrum".

112 posted on 03/30/2014 10:44:05 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ghost of SVR4
This is the part that always fascinates me:

There is a level of conformity among blacks that whites would find hard to believe. They like one kind of music: rap. They will vote for one political party: Democrat. They dance one way, speak one way, are loud the same way, and fail their exams in the same way. Of course, there are exceptions but they are rare.

Whites are different. Some like country music, others heavy metal, some prefer pop, and still others, God forbid, enjoy rap music. They have different associations, groups, almost ideologies. There are jocks, nerds, preppies, and hunters. Blacks are all -- well -- black, and they are quick to let other blacks know when they deviate from the norm.

One might object that there are important group differences among blacks that a white man simply cannot detect. I have done my best to find them, but so far as I can tell, they dress the same, talk the same, think the same. Certainly, they form rival groups, but the groups are not different in any discernible way. There simply are no groups of blacks that are as distinctly different from each other as white "nerds," "hunters," or "Goths," for example.

I can't help but think that whites do well because they ALLOW each other the freedom to specialize and differ. Individualism is prized, not treated with suspicion.

113 posted on 03/30/2014 10:47:35 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Feckless

It is the culture. Sadly, our government and government programs designed to help support the very culture that is the root of the problem.

The war on poverty has become the war on American values and the progressives won. We lost.

It is heartbreaking to think of what could have been millions of times over and what will be in the future. Too many Americans believe the lie that they are not allowed to have input because they are the wrong color. This is a national sin and tragedy that we all pay for.


114 posted on 03/30/2014 10:48:53 AM PDT by volunbeer
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To: mrsmel

So, how much of the variation is ascribed to Nurture and how much to Nature?


115 posted on 03/30/2014 10:48:53 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
they don't need to be coddled, understood and tolerated, they need to be discredited and defeated.

I agree. I simply don't think the best way to discredit him is to pronounce him "evil." The best way to discredit him is to discredit his work by showing its weaknesses.

116 posted on 03/30/2014 10:52:25 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: raybbr

It makes no sense to say he is indoctrinated but claim he isn’t ignorant. In order to BE indoctrinated, you have to be ignorant (of opposing views and their rationale, at the very least.)


117 posted on 03/30/2014 10:54:05 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Paladin2
Maybe it's like the difference between American and Americana. He seems to be an expert in African-American* pop culture, and knows nothing so many untruths about African-American culture.

*I rarely use the phrase African-American, but in this case it's the only accurate word or phrase to express what I mean.

118 posted on 03/30/2014 11:00:13 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stop harassing and attacking those who “act white” and you’ll reduce the prison end of the pipeline.


119 posted on 03/30/2014 11:01:24 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a waste of what could have been a functional brain.


120 posted on 03/30/2014 11:01:33 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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