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To: tom h

If she was raped as a teen, that could explain many of her bizarre actions in future years. Apparently, some women who are raped, never get over it and act out by becoming sluttish. The psychology being that they feel worthless because they were raped, so they act like they are worthless, choosing to be a ‘piece of meat’, to be a sex object (note the belt she is wearing in your photo). If this is the case, I feel sorry for her and she definitely needs help. If it is to get attention, to boost a sagging career, her comments are pathetic.


37 posted on 04/02/2014 5:04:17 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
The psychology being that they feel worthless because they were raped, so they act like they are worthless, choosing to be a ‘piece of meat’, to be a sex object (note the belt she is wearing in your photo).

Or they buy in to the psychobabble crap about taking control of their sexuality by being the aggressor.

65 posted on 04/03/2014 11:29:06 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

OK, I buy your argument. But her story as least as presented her is more detailed. She was already famous with her “Like a Virgin” album, was already getting media attention running around in bustiers in public, and milking all this for millions.

So when someone with a background like this claims rape but with no perp we are not beyond reason to wonder whether it really happened or whether the story is more nuanced. As I said multiple times in this thread, no women deserves rape and the perps must be pursued regardless, but it is hard to have pity on Madonna if the incident happened because of her lifestyle. Also, it’s hard to have a lot of pity on her if the rape happened after a night of snorting coke while she is cavorting with unsavory characters, and the dude just naturally assumed he had a night of sex coming, and she was too messed up to put up a fight.

I have two daughters and have spent 20 years telling them that they are responsible for the decisions they make about boys, and men. Bad decisions make for bad situations, bad relationships, bad marriages, and, possibly rape.

If one of my daughters lived like Madonna, taking drugs and living a wild lifestyle, cavorting with bad boys with violent tendencies, and was raped because of her immersion in that lifestyle, I would support full prosecution of the perp but I would kick her a— for being incredibly stupid (and sinful).

And while it might not seem fair, if my other daughter was reading her Bible, knitting in the living room, and drinking warm milk and she was raped, my heart would bleed for her.

Sorry, the situations just aren’t the same.


67 posted on 04/04/2014 2:16:46 AM PDT by tom h
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