Posted on 04/03/2014 12:20:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
*””lol - you avoided posting the preface / libertarian bashing meme, hoping to obfuscate.””*
So you are absolutely, totally nuts. I posted the entire post, all of it, what do you find hidden in it?
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney was a true believer in homosexualizing the military 20 years ago, that is the reason that we need conservatives, not libertarians, and not “moderates”, as GOP nominees.
Mitt Romney:
“”One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.””
8 posted on 4/3/2014 12:34:03 AM by ansel12
Romney was weak, but was he so weak as to let his military subordinates run over him and defy him? I doubt it.
Thug presidency. Punk president. No surprises. There’s much more of this. We’ll never know the true extent of it but I guarantee it’s the norm.
And who do you think would take his place?
Considering you messaged me again after your bullshit ultimatum, I’d say it was all fair game.
I win again.
Thank you.
lol
Is this a debate technique for you?
Does it actually work?
I’ve run into some childish people on here, but this one takes the cake. Unreal.
Leave the big topics to the big kids, Random Internet Guy. You’re out of your league.
Seems like I recall study recently (and briefly) in the news that under close scrutiny pointed to significant higher levels of same-sex sexual assault in the military. Can anyone jog the memory?
I'm probably going to catch some not-so-friendly fire from this, but This is one of the negative side effects of the all-volunteer "career" military. There are lots of careerists who are simply bureaucrats in uniform: Afraid to lose their promotion/job/pension/position/security-blanket.
Given your comment on wide stance, it would seem you are a political junkie. On the same subject, recall the Penn State problem and the little boys. This was in an environment where things like that were totally unexpected and not allowed. Now, senior officers are being told to accept this sort of thing or resign. Makes my skin crawl. Then, there was the problem of FBI Director Hoover and his Mafia handlers. Too bad, the president cannot see the other side of this story — of course he never can — he’s never been there.
I beg to differ but resigning does not mean dropping a letter on the bosses desk and walking out. You have to have completed your military obligation before you can tender your resignation.
If you are retirement eligible and you are not on a controlled tour or overseas then and only then can you submit your resignation. It has to be approved, it's not automatic. It can take up to six months or until the end of service obligation before you can go.
Enlisted can retire if they are retirement eligible and not on an overseas tour or in a controlled assignment. You only have to submit your retirement papers 120 days prior. Enlisted are also subject to approval/disapproval. Ever heard of Stop/Loss?
Life would not have been easy for those who would have been waiting to retire knowing how this administration operates.
Not many, there was a group of four pushing that nonsense. Everyone knows that women can’t hold up to sustained combat. The shooting at the navy yard was because the perp disarmed a female sailor. If it was a man most likely that would not have happened. Some of the female MPs are really tiny. One punch and they are out.
Just talk to anyone in uniform and they will provide lots of evidence. Civilians caused this and they have to fix it not the military.
I agree in general with your observations. In my opinion, at the root of the increasing disorder in the military is the Leftist push to impose a fantasy based reality upon the military. The push for military service utopia is just like the Leftist push for social utopia in that it is falsely premised upon feelings that man can be perfect given the proper plan and or education/indoctrination and or imposed rule(s).
Conservatives understand the reality of man RE: that the only way to limit tyranny is to limit government.
At one time it was understood that to maintain military order it was necessary to limit who was in the military as well as what actions were allowed in the military.
It is quite obvious to myself that the more the Leftists transform the military into a mirror of society the more the military will mirror society.
Things like sexual assaults & rapes happen in society even with laws against such and civilian courts and prosecutions. The way the military used to prevent such issues was to NOT place sexually attracted people in close quarters etcetera. In other words, no women and or no homosexuals allowed pretty much, with few exceptions, assures military order in regards to sexual proclivities.
Military order is not something that begins by wishful thinking, luck or having the right code of conduct. It is something that begins by first who is allowed in the military and who is not.
Did I say it was? No.
Since we were talking about the Commandant of the Coast Guard and the rest of the Joint Chiefs, its obvious that they ARE retirement eligible. You think that any of them are under "20" in service?
AND, I did not mean to imply that the resignation was immediate - only that once you have put in your papers, the process has started. Does it take time - yes.
They are all retirement eligible but they still have to get approval to leave. OB could just say no, we are at war, then what?
My point was that even if they tried to resign they could have been denied and then the witch hunts would have started. Whoever had resignation papers in would have been targeted.
More men are getting raped now.
after reading your post, you need to pray for wisdom. Maybe when you get older, and if you keep your eyes open without “agenda vision”, you’ll realize how dangerous your thoughts are on gays and the military.
OK. You didn’t answer my question either.
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