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To: Ivan Mazepa; caww; Psalm 144; All; Admin Moderator

To: Ivan Mazepa

He isn’t my Russian guy, you user of Red Herrings and Ad Hominem to deflect from what McCain was doing, and try to deflect this discussion onto me and other Freepers who post here about this.

Your use of Red Herrings and Ad Hominem is weak and undermines your argument(s) completely.

If these guys aren’t Neo-Nazis (or something close to it)then who are, huh? Did something akin to the Nazi flag just magically appear in some peoples hands on this thread in the pics that were given, huh?

Please, no more trolling and personal attacks against me, Ivan.

Thank you.


74 posted on 04/05/2014 2:14:34 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
If these guys aren’t Neo-Nazis (or something close to it)then who are, huh? Did something akin to the Nazi flag just magically appear in some peoples hands on this thread in the pics that were given, huh?

The point of this whole thread, and the nearly identical one like it, word for word, is not that there are nazis, but that it labels the entire government and at least half of the nation as nazi-sympathizers. Of course there are dangerous fringe elements in Ukraine, arguing against that fact is like arguing that there are no people with red hair. But these groups are a small minority in the government, in the parliament and in the general population.

Now let me tell you what happens when you label Ukraine's government and at least half of the country as nazi-sympathizers. It means, these people are animals and you can go into their country, annex a part of their territory for yourself, and demand a 'regime change', preferably headed by a twice-convicted loyal puppet like Yanek. Nazi-sympathizers deserve no sympathy and can easily be killed on the spot, or resettled in Siberia (an idea that is being floated by one of the Russian ministers). This "neo-Nazi" casus belli gives Putin carte blanche to do anything (that's my Latin/French for the day, but I'll only use it once here) Thankfully, nobody in the world is falling his line, except for beacons of democracy like Syria and N. Korea

You could be genuinely concerned about these fringe groups, or just repeating what Putin says to support his war against Ukraine, I don't know. If it's the second, then it's just a cynical exploitation of the real anti-Semitic threat that does exist in the world.

World Jewish Congress denounces ‘exaggerated accounts’ of Ukrainian anti-Semitism

82 posted on 04/05/2014 11:51:28 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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