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FLORIDA LAWMAKERS PASS WARNING SHOT LEGISLATION, NOW HEADS TO GOV. SCOTT
Breitbart Big Government ^ | 4 Apr 2014 | AWR HAWKINS

Posted on 04/05/2014 12:01:01 AM PDT by kingattax

On April 3rd, the Florida senate passed warning shot legislation by a vote of 32-7. The state house had already passed the measure, so it now goes to Gov. Rick Scott (R) for his signature.

If signed, this legislation will make it legal to fire a warning shot as a last step before shooting an attacker who has launched an assault.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; warning; warningshot
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To: kingattax

I fired a shot into the air, it came to Earth I know not where...bad idea, waste of ammo.


41 posted on 04/05/2014 8:43:12 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: peyton randolph
A prison guard told me they explained the warning shot to inmates to deter escapes. The first shot is a kill shot as the guard yells “stop or I’ll shoot.” The second shot is fired into the air.

Interesting, that is exactly how warning shots will be delivered in my home, and I have said so for decades.

42 posted on 04/05/2014 9:28:59 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: RC one
"20 years for each warning shot served consecutively if the prosecutor has her way. that’s life in prison - mandatory."

There was only one shot. It's three counts because she endangered three people. There were also two children standing with her husband. It's also not the prosecutor's call. The sentence is a mandatory minimum by law.

43 posted on 04/05/2014 9:34:19 AM PDT by mlo
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To: kingattax

The law doesn’t allow warning shots. It allows someone to threaten the use of force in the same situation where the actual use of force would have been legal. In other words, if it would have been self-defense to shoot someone, it will now also be self-defense to threaten to shoot someone. It wasn’t before, and because Florida has strict mandatory laws involving the use of a gun, people would get serious prison time for threatening to do something that would have been legal if they’d done it.

But it also requires that any threat of force must not pose a risk to public safety, which pretty much rules out any wild warning shots. The exact opposite of what people are saying about this law.

Note that none of this applies to the Marissa Alexander case because she wasn’t acting in self defense.


44 posted on 04/05/2014 10:00:32 AM PDT by mlo
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To: driftdiver
"I agree, this law is the result of an overzealus prosecutor. A woman is serving 20 years under mandatory sentencing guidlines for firing a warning shot as her ex was threatening her."

Since they are mandatory sentences, the prosecutor has nothing to do with it.

Also, Marissa Alexander is not serving any time now. She is awaiting retrial. If she goes to trial, if the prosecutor doesn't offer her a plea, she will be convicted again. She didn't fire a warning shot, her husband wasn't threatening her. She didn't act in self defense.

45 posted on 04/05/2014 10:03:52 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
"So, if this new bill is signed into law, is her re-trial cancelled?"

I assume you mean Marissa Alexander. This bill has no bearing on the facts of her case. She wasn't acting in self defense.

46 posted on 04/05/2014 10:05:18 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Progov
"If I fired a “warning shot” and HIT the perp, could I claim I HAD fired a warning shot but missed?"

First, it doesn't allow firing warning shots. Second, assuming for a moment it did, there would be no need to claim that. It allows the threat of force in the same situation where the use of force would be legal. There's no looser standard for the threat. If you'd be ok with a threat, you'd be ok if you hit him.

47 posted on 04/05/2014 10:07:41 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Arrowhead1952

48 posted on 04/05/2014 10:12:12 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Jonty30
An average man can run 30ft/scd.

that's a 10 second hundred yard dash ... hardly average

49 posted on 04/05/2014 10:13:32 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Never fire a warning shot!

Unless it's at the center of mass.

50 posted on 04/05/2014 10:15:44 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: mlo

The da and prosecutor have leeway not to pursue charges.

Right?


51 posted on 04/05/2014 10:34:14 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Sure, but the charges are appropriate in this case. The problem is only that they have mandatory minimums.


52 posted on 04/05/2014 10:40:09 AM PDT by mlo
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To: peyton randolph
Criminals never fire ‘warning shots’ and either should anyone who's dealing with a criminal.

Here's how homeowners die in a break-ins - - Homeowner: “Put your gun down or I'll shoot’. At which point the perp aims his gun and kills the homeowner. Crimnians don't give warnings or play fair. And as far as killing one of these people? Even their fathers would cheer in relief...

53 posted on 04/05/2014 10:47:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (For your psycho gunman, a military base is basically a grade-school in uniform. - Mark Steyn)
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To: peyton randolph
Criminals never fire ‘warning shots’ and either should anyone who's dealing with a criminal.

Here's how homeowners die in a break-ins - - Homeowner: “Put your gun down or I'll shoot’. At which point the perp aims his gun and kills the homeowner. Criminals don't give warnings or play fair. And as far as killing one of these people? Even their fathers and children would cheer in relief...

54 posted on 04/05/2014 10:48:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (For your psycho gunman, a military base is basically a grade-school in uniform. - Mark Steyn)
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To: kingattax

This law is ALLOWING a warning shot, not MANDATING one. If you feel that one is necessary and/or useful, you can now do it without fear of prosecution. Otherwise, go for center-of-mass as needed.


55 posted on 04/05/2014 10:51:41 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317

It doesnt allow warning shots.


56 posted on 04/05/2014 11:01:19 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Cololeo

Standard LEO training is what is getting innocent people murdered.


57 posted on 04/05/2014 11:37:37 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: fortheDeclaration

Just fire two quick shots at the attacker. Tell the judge the warning shot just happened to miss your target, which of course was the sky!


58 posted on 04/05/2014 4:43:09 PM PDT by seekthetruth (I still want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: driftdiver
I wish people would stop bringing that case up, as it does not apply.
The woman left the premises, went out to her car, retrieved a gun, and fired a weapon through walls where her own children were present.Her children were not under threat from anyone but her.

Not exactly the normal definition of a “warning shot”.

59 posted on 04/05/2014 7:10:32 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: sarasmom

That is the case which led to this law. You may not like it but you will have to deal with it.


60 posted on 04/05/2014 7:22:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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