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To: garybob
"I hate to break it to you, but those are not prisoners of war, they are not covered by the Geneva Convention, are not signatories to the Geneva Convention and they target innocent civilians. Under the Laws of Land Warfare they can be shot on the spot as they are simply terrorists."

Exactly. As a former CIA OTS officer to the JAG officer: I understand the need to have boundaries for our troops - in general an effective war machine must be self-disciplined - but there is a place for limited and controlled application of hard interrogation (best done outside of the military structure). There is also a time and place for flat out torture although I would never make that legal because it needs to be rare.

27 posted on 04/05/2014 10:30:27 AM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: QuisCustodiet1776
"As a former CIA OTS officer"

According to CIA docs provided to the Senate Intelligence Committee circa 2009, every CIA officer who volunteered and was subjected to the waterboard...when given the chance to capitulate, capitulated within 20 seconds.

They did not release the number of agents who went through it.

But if you assume 2 for every SERE class (FASO West, it's reported other services never allowed the technique) and 5 CIA guys per year, the number of US Citizens who have experienced the waterboard is certainly less then 5000 and probably around 1000.

39 posted on 04/05/2014 11:33:20 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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