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NY Times: Mozilla CEO's 'Anti-Gay' Stance 'By Definition Disqualifying,' He Needed 'Rehabilitation'
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Posted on 04/05/2014 4:49:51 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

NY Times: Mozilla CEO's 'Anti-Gay' Stance 'By Definition Disqualifying,' He Needed 'Rehabilitation' By Tim Graham Created 04/05/2014 - 6:59pm

Our web guru Steve Edwards passed along a tweet from Moe Lane that said "New York Times confirms: Open Source advocacy is for liberals/progressives only. "

Lane linked to an obnoxious blog post by Farhad Manjoo in The New York Times titled “Why Mozilla’s Chief Had to Resign.” You see, “Mozilla is not a normal company. It is an activist organization.” And activists apparently find it very distasteful to be less than “militantly tolerant,” as Manjoo put it:

Is this an instance of political correctness run amok? Is it a sign that Silicon Valley has become militantly tolerant, unwilling to let executives express their personal viewpoints on issues unrelated to their jobs? I’ve seen many such worries expressed online; even supporters of same-sex marriage have been characterizing Mr. Eich’s ouster as an awful precedent for giving in to moralistic mob rule.

But it’s a mistake to draw any such conclusions in this case, for one simple reason: Mozilla is not a normal company. It is an activist organization. Mozilla’s primary mission isn’t to make money but to spread open-source code across the globe in the eventual hope of promoting “the development of the Internet as a public resource.”

As such, Mozilla operates according to a different calculus from most of the rest of corporate America.

The company serves two markets, not just one, and the second market is “arguably more challenging — the tight labor pool of engineers, designers, and other tech workers who make software.” They have an ideology that must not be broached:

When you consider the importance of that market, Mr. Eich’s position on gay marriage wasn’t some outré personal stance unrelated to his job; it was a potentially hazardous bit of negative branding in the labor pool, one that was making life difficult for current employees and plausibly reducing Mozilla’s draw to prospective workers.

This became clear in a string of tweets and thoughtful blog posts that Mozilla employees (a.k.a. Mozillians) published this week. A number of them called for Mr. Eich’s resignation. One employee in Britain, Paula Le Dieu, put herself on “unpaid leave” in protest. Others stopped short of calling for Mr. Eich’s ouster but expressed frustration that Mozilla was being tarred with his views, and hope that they could rehabilitate Mr. Eich’s ideas about gay marriage...

“He is actively harming Mozilla by not making a proper statement on these issues and making things right,” wrote Ben Werdmüller, a Mozilla developer.

In other words, those "thoughtful Mozillians" believed Eich apparently needed to undergo "conversion therapy" and become an "ex-Anti-Gay," and then he would be "rehabilitated."

Manjoo bizarrely thought that this Mozilla mutiny is "slightly more nuanced" than liberals cry Negative Branding and get out the (career) guillotine. Imagine if the CEO were a gay activist who'd donated a mere $1,000 to support gay marriage and it ruined the "unit cohesion" of the company:

In such an environment, it isn’t out of bounds to consider how a certain leader’s political views might affect employees’ passion for their mission. If the community’s cohesiveness is Mozilla’s primary advantage over its rivals, the fact that Mr. Eich’s views on gay marriage might have posed some danger to that community was almost by definition disqualifying. If his job was to motivate people, and he was instead causing people to question the community’s ethic—well, at the least, you can say he wasn’t doing a good job.

To some Mozillians, this became especially clear over the last week, when Mr. Eich refused to recant his position on gay marriage in a series of interviews. “In his first test as C.E.O. of Mozilla, he failed to execute,” wrote Matthew Riley MacPherson, a developer who works for Mozilla in Montreal. “So while I think his donation to Prop 8 spurred the controversy and exposed his inability to think as Mozilla’s C.E.O. instead of as Brendan Eich, I don’t think it was his stance against gay marriage in his home state of California that should be named as the cause of his departure.”

Instead, Mr. MacPherson argued, it was Mr. Eich’s inability to keep his community together amid a growing firestorm that proved he could not lead the organization.

Mr. MacPherson added: “So while the mob might feel like it won, proving that there is some kind of zero-tolerance for homophobia in America, Eich’s departure from Mozilla tells a slightly more nuanced story than that.”

No, you "thoughtful" Mozilla mobsters, it's not more nuanced than that, no matter how you try to spin it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: brendaneich; california; homosexualagenda; mozilla; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes
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Off to the Gulag!
1 posted on 04/05/2014 4:49:51 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Mr. Eich can spend the summer here in the packing dept:


2 posted on 04/05/2014 4:52:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sub-Driver

i hope the backlash really hurts


3 posted on 04/05/2014 4:52:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s time for two speerate counties. You can’t combine a godless society and a moral society together.


4 posted on 04/05/2014 4:53:03 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Sub-Driver
Send him off to those “re-education” camps. Incredible! This is America. Have we really come to this?
5 posted on 04/05/2014 4:54:43 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Sub-Driver
Took the words right out of my mouth.

NYT: the new mouthpiece for the United States Socialist/Communist Regime ("USSR").

6 posted on 04/05/2014 4:54:46 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Sub-Driver

if he owns some web patents he should block Mozilla from using them


7 posted on 04/05/2014 4:54:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: PapaNew

“NYT: the new mouthpiece for the United States Socialist/Communist Regime (”USSR”).”

Where have you been lately? I guess you don’t remember how many times these bastards print out article after article about how bad we were doing in Iraq from day one.


8 posted on 04/05/2014 4:57:29 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Sub-Driver

Lock and Load people. There’s a reckoning coming.


9 posted on 04/05/2014 4:58:27 PM PDT by Jimmy4Toes
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To: GeronL

he is said to have written JavaScript in 10 days.


10 posted on 04/05/2014 4:58:37 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: ilgipper

Fascists need to control people -they will never let their victims go


11 posted on 04/05/2014 4:59:02 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Sub-Driver

How friggin awesome, now if you don’t worship the queers you get sent to the re-education camps! The time is coming that the queers will have pushed too hard too long and the backlash will be far from simply political in nature. And of course they will accept no responsibility for it.


12 posted on 04/05/2014 5:00:08 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Nikita Khrushchev, Leonid Brezhnev;
(dancing in a HELL, filled with joy with Satan in the lead.)
happily endorse the actions of the New York Slimes.

13 posted on 04/05/2014 5:00:13 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Sub-Driver

OK, now we know that “Mozillians” are a cult, not a business.
I’m quickly weaning my computers off of Mozilla products.


14 posted on 04/05/2014 5:04:07 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Mastador1

It’s time to ask Jesus: stop them, Lord, for they know not what they do.


15 posted on 04/05/2014 5:04:10 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: max americana
the United States Socialist/Communist Regime (”USSR”).”

Where the ideology has become SIN (Systematic Inversion of Norms).

16 posted on 04/05/2014 5:05:52 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Rehabilitation"

The far left has not changed, and they never will.

17 posted on 04/05/2014 5:08:13 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Sub-Driver

They think they’ve one and can ram this up our fudge holes. They’re going to take it too far.


18 posted on 04/05/2014 5:08:53 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Farhad Manjoo in The New York Times titled “Why Mozilla’s Chief Had to Resign.”

I’ve just got to suggest that Farhad Manjoo change his name to Farhad Mangoo.


19 posted on 04/05/2014 5:09:59 PM PDT by jsh3180
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To: Fungi
Yes we have. The armies of Satan smell blood. There's no living with them now.
20 posted on 04/05/2014 5:10:47 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Pollster1

21 posted on 04/05/2014 5:11:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RitchieAprile
"he is said to have written JavaScript in 10 days. "

Many are apparently not surprised by that....

22 posted on 04/05/2014 5:11:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Kinda makes you wonder what it means to be the CEO of a company that’s not interested in profitability, doesn’t it?


23 posted on 04/05/2014 5:12:04 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Sub-Driver

Militancy needs to be met with militancy. Mozilla must recant what it has done and rehire Eich or be destroyed.


24 posted on 04/05/2014 5:14:22 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Sub-Driver

NYT goes in to bat for the SA


25 posted on 04/05/2014 5:14:43 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: ilgipper

You mean countries - I couldn’t agree with you more. But again, the libs are all for freedom in Ukraine, but not for Americans.


26 posted on 04/05/2014 5:16:10 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: Viennacon

Wow is Amerika going down fast with the POS mozlum at the helm.

After cankles is elected because she allegedly has lady parts, you may as well stick the fork in.

(with all due respect to excrement)


27 posted on 04/05/2014 5:17:17 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Sub-Driver

Affirming biblical marriage is now a hate crime.


28 posted on 04/05/2014 5:21:42 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: txhurl
It’s time to ask Jesus: stop them, Lord, for they know not what they do.

Sadly, they know exactly what they are doing, they have have been pushing this agenda for decades and feel they are at the point they can be as militant as they want. I do not include all Homosexuals in this, I know many who want nothing more than to live their lives quietly and peacefully like anyone else. I am speaking to the QUEERS, the flaming in your face disgusting public behaviour queers.

29 posted on 04/05/2014 5:22:04 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

I am very, very disappointed in this.

I have been using Ubuntu for years.

Firefox has been my default browser forever. I’m going to go back to Microsoft.

I’ve got it at work, but haven’t used it much at home for probably more than 5 years. Maybe 10.

This is a huge mistake by the liberals. Bigtime.


30 posted on 04/05/2014 5:22:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Sub-Driver
Rehabilitation.


31 posted on 04/05/2014 5:23:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Sub-Driver

We talking re-education camps here?


32 posted on 04/05/2014 5:24:39 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mastador1

That’s why I don’t ask Jesus to forgive them (not now, anyway) but to STOP them.


33 posted on 04/05/2014 5:26:41 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: ilgipper

Im all for that..you can have all the lib freaks on their own island, they can redistribute all the wealth they want, give it to each other in the rear, have all the Common Core teachings they want and have super high taxes for those mean mean rich libs and see how they like it, bet they cant last a week before they start killing each other


34 posted on 04/05/2014 5:28:22 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sub-Driver

Ben Werdmuller
Web technologist & developer

I’m Ben Werdmuller, a web product manager, platform architect and developer, specializing in social software platforms for business.

http://benwerd.com

I’m based in the San Francisco Bay Area. You can contact me at ben@benwerd.com.


35 posted on 04/05/2014 5:31:06 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver

should the company be allowed to continue its discriminatory ways?

if so... then why was the Colorado bakery forced out of business? wouldn’t the members of the company be forced to allow him to work there, regardless how they feel about his personal opinions?

and what about hobby lobby and chik-fil-A? corporations attacked for their beliefs... shouldn’t Mozilla also be attacked for having similar, if polar opposite, beliefs?


36 posted on 04/05/2014 5:31:20 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

LOL you comment reminds me of the conservative boss in this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auK3t0MSsCA


37 posted on 04/05/2014 5:31:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Viennacon

So when are we going to have a “Night of the Long Knives”.


38 posted on 04/05/2014 5:33:10 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: PapaNew

New mouthpiece?


39 posted on 04/05/2014 5:34:58 PM PDT by anoldafvet (If you think the government is capable of taking care of you, just look at the indian tribes)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL never watched that show but funny clip


40 posted on 04/05/2014 5:35:18 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sub-Driver

Those a-holes at Mozilla should be ashamed. I hope Mr. Eich opens up competition and smokes his old company.


41 posted on 04/05/2014 5:35:39 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Sub-Driver

Seems these kooks do not realize there would most likely not be a “Mozilla Community” without the incredible mind of Mr. Eich. This is a really stupid little collective. The company does not deserve to survive.


42 posted on 04/05/2014 5:35:46 PM PDT by formosa
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To: Sub-Driver
pffft... A requirement to work at the NYT is that you must be a Sodomite, or support the Sodomite subculture. In fact this is the case for most Media centers.
Must be a prerequisite to get into Journalism school.
43 posted on 04/05/2014 5:36:17 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I use Mint Debian on my newer computers and Ubuntu on an older laptop. I have been using Thunderbird and Firefox for years. I’m looking at Claws for email but am not sure about the browser. There are the Debian derivatives of the Mozilla products (Iceweasel and Icedove) but they are Mozilla at the core.

The problem is that Mozilla’s intolerance is probably shared by much of the open source community. It almost seems like a religion-substitute to these nerds.


44 posted on 04/05/2014 5:36:48 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: NathanR

I’ve got an AR-15 they can come and get


45 posted on 04/05/2014 5:37:04 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: SoFloFreeper
Indeed, Eich is guilty of a hate crime. Let's see if Holder decides to charge him with one.

The totalitarians are winning. Only views approved of by the DNC, the New York Times, and the rest of the liberal elite are allowed to be expressed openly, or supported by donations.

Of course, Mr. Eich's heresy would not have come to light if it were not for the "campaign finance reform" laws put in place by the left.

46 posted on 04/05/2014 5:40:39 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: txhurl

Okay, gotcha!


47 posted on 04/05/2014 5:42:37 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: ilgipper

Two speerate countries. Yeah! That’s what we need. :-)


48 posted on 04/05/2014 5:44:37 PM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: RitchieAprile

he is said to have written JavaScript in 10 days.


49 posted on 04/05/2014 5:44:37 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots
There is a tool in *nix called YACC, Yet Another Compiler Compiler. Using this tool it is no big deal to prototype a language in a few days.

Fight the Free Sh☭t Nation

50 posted on 04/05/2014 5:48:09 PM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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