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Eric Holder: Maybe lawful gun owners should have to wear electronic bracelets to use them
Hotair ^ | 04/08/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/08/2014 7:20:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

How old am I? I’m old enough to remember when the only people on whom government wanted to put electronic bracelets were criminals. Attorney General Eric Holder testified yesterday on Capitol Hill about gun-safety programs promoted by the Department of Justice, which wants almost $400 million in the next budget for “common sense” regulations like electronic bracelets for firearms:

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“I think that one of the things that we learned when we were trying to get passed those common sense reforms last year, Vice President Biden and I had a meeting with a group of technology people and we talked about how guns can be made more safe,” he said.

“By making them either through finger print identification, the gun talks to a bracelet or something that you might wear, how guns can be used only by the person who is lawfully in possession of the weapon.”

“It’s those kinds of things that I think we want to try to explore so that we can make sure that people have the ability to enjoy their Second Amendment rights, but at the same time decreasing the misuse of weapons that lead to the kinds of things that we see on a daily basis,” Holder said.

First, the electronic bracelet concept has barely passed the theoretical stage, let alone made it into the commercial market. There is literally one pistol model being sold in one gun story in America which fits Holder’s “common sense” requirement. How exactly would that allow Americans to “enjoy their Second Amendment rights”? Most gun owners — and there are over 60 million of them — handle and store their weapons safely. More people get murdered each year by body parts than by rifles, for instance, which had been the focus of gun-control efforts over the last sixteen months.

Drunk drivers kill nearly twice as many people each year as all firearms, and that figure may be seriously underestimated. Driving is already a government-regulated activity, so why not focus on installing breathalyzers in autos? Because when people need to drive, they don’t want a failing breathalyzer unit to keep their car from starting, and since most car owners don’t drink and drive in the first place, they don’t want to be treated like a criminal just to exercise their privilege of driving on public roads. Why should law-abiding citizens have to deal with the same kind of system malfunction at the precise moment they need a firearm to defend themselves or their families?

“Common sense” would be to leave law-abiding citizens alone. Of course, “common sense” would also be to not traffic rifles to drug cartels across the border into Mexico without any way to track them or retrieve them, so we know what role “common sense” plays in Eric Holder’s DoJ.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; electronicbracelets; ericholder; guns; nannystate; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/08/2014 7:20:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

eric you are twisted


2 posted on 04/08/2014 7:22:27 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have an even better idea. Fit a size 12 bracelet on Holder’s size 16 neck.

And leave it there.


3 posted on 04/08/2014 7:23:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And maybe Eric should go pee on himself.


4 posted on 04/08/2014 7:23:21 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

5 posted on 04/08/2014 7:23:31 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They want legitimize people to wear devices to track them and they do not want to track criminals?

Professional courtesy I guess.


6 posted on 04/08/2014 7:24:03 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Police and federal law enforcement will get these first, right?


7 posted on 04/08/2014 7:24:38 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe we should all wear yellow stars, too.


8 posted on 04/08/2014 7:24:48 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That way Holders People can tell who to avoid when they feel like mugging, raping or playing the Knock Out Game.


9 posted on 04/08/2014 7:25:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well eric, I for once think you’re on to something. You and your boss most certainly should be wearing bracelets.? On your way to the big house. For a long time. Remind us once again, were you or were you not armed when you illegally took over the admin offices all those years ago?


10 posted on 04/08/2014 7:26:40 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe the AG should read the Constitution


11 posted on 04/08/2014 7:26:43 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

that struck me too. This is the same mindset which prompted the Nazis to compel Jews to wear yellow stars to ID them.

So, then, we’re going to identify people with these bracelets???

And Harry Reid said recently that Republican Senators should wear identification indicating they received contributions from the Koch brothers.

What is it about a liberal mindset, that they want to publicly physically identify certain people with whom they disagree????


12 posted on 04/08/2014 7:27:11 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: SeekAndFind

...shall not be infringed.


13 posted on 04/08/2014 7:28:09 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: SeekAndFind
If he's okay with beta-testing this hare-brained idea with the Secret Service, the US military, the FBI, the DEA and only then plan to require it of the hoi-polloi...

Holder either has an incredibly black and evil heart, or he's living in some alternative universe.

In 1974, the Feds required cars to have either automatic seat belts or an ignition interlock that required drivers and passengers to buckle their seat belts to start their cars. This did not go well. Most soon figured out how to bypass the circuit; IIRC within one year the requirement was disposed of by congress.

14 posted on 04/08/2014 7:30:05 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sounds OK to me.

What's wrong with a government wanting a certain group of it's citizens to wear identification items?

How could it hurt?


15 posted on 04/08/2014 7:30:51 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: SeekAndFind

Aside from the Fascist implications of this screwball idea, this destroys the entire notion of concealed carry. In most states, concealed carry means that your weapon must be out of sight. Impossible to do if you are wearing a bracelet that is an integral part of the weapons system.


16 posted on 04/08/2014 7:31:37 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: SeekAndFind

B. Hussein Obama continues unimpeded as the arrogant Democrat leader of the Left Wing, Anti-Work Counterculture thanks to doormat Republicans such as Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, Issa, McConnell, and McCain.

Counterculture Democrats reap what they sow, and doormat Republicans gladly provide the fertilizer.

What can possibly go wrong?


17 posted on 04/08/2014 7:32:39 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: coloradan

My thoughts exactly


18 posted on 04/08/2014 7:33:22 AM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why not go all the way? Force everyone to wear an RFID tag.
When you pull the trigger, the mandatory smart gun sends all the pertinent information, including audio, video and the ID of shooter and target, to the FBI where a clerk decides whether to allow the gun to fire or not.
It may take a few minutes but it's better than to take a human life unnecessarily, right?
Of course the perp's gun will have no such limitations.

19 posted on 04/08/2014 7:33:28 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: coloradan

Obama hoping for a shooting war before November. Let’s just take the Congress and make him an early lame duck.


20 posted on 04/08/2014 7:33:59 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe I should have to put my boot up Holder’s ass to straighten him out.

Chump.


21 posted on 04/08/2014 7:35:57 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: chrisser

Yeah, that would be a good place to “prove” them out.

Any government agent at any level must have a tracking bracelet matched to his service side arm in order for it to operate.


22 posted on 04/08/2014 7:37:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind
Just when you think they can't get any more Orwellian, they do.


23 posted on 04/08/2014 7:38:09 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: MrB
Any government agent at any level must have a tracking bracelet matched to his service side arm in order for it to operate.

Maybe they can build in a dog detector, just to make their job a little easier.
24 posted on 04/08/2014 7:39:26 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As I’ve said. They want to take guns from honest, law-abiding non-violent people and deliberately leave them in the hands of violent criminals.
Did I say deliberately?


25 posted on 04/08/2014 7:39:46 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Forget about innocent until proven guilty.


26 posted on 04/08/2014 7:41:41 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: chrisser

As someone else suggested, when the operator pulls the trigger, the bracelet will communicate back to some central authority that decides on an ad hoc basis as to whether to allow the gun to fire or not.

It might take a few minutes, but if it saves one life, it’s worth it.

I’m sure LEO and FedLEO will go along with this because they think it’s a good idea for the rest of us.


27 posted on 04/08/2014 7:41:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ok...TEST it first on Holder and this Admin security details


28 posted on 04/08/2014 7:43:26 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All of the “jingoistic” freedom garbage in America has got to go, right Eric? We need to be more like the old Third Reich or Soviet Union, right Eric?


29 posted on 04/08/2014 7:43:46 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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To: I want the USA back

You’re referring to one facet of “reparations”...


30 posted on 04/08/2014 7:44:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Making lawful gun owners wear electronic bracelets is called the epitome of black self-determination.

31 posted on 04/08/2014 7:44:38 AM PDT by Slyfox (When Jesus sees a momma holding her little baby, it reminds him of his own momma.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think he should test this for 20 years on police and armed fedeal bureaucrats.


32 posted on 04/08/2014 7:44:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: I want the USA back; All
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957 
33 posted on 04/08/2014 7:46:25 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think we should be tattooed on our wrists with the serial numbers of our weapons and marched onto trains bound for the showers.


34 posted on 04/08/2014 7:49:06 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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35 posted on 04/08/2014 7:49:55 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: SeekAndFind

Come try to put one on me! He needs to be impeached right now.


37 posted on 04/08/2014 7:53:08 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing like the feeling of having your life dependent upon the whims of an electronic circuit and a battery that was installed after sitting on a warehouse shelf for 9 years.


38 posted on 04/08/2014 7:55:53 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: BitWielder1
I used to laugh at clever sarcasm like this. Lately I cringe and think don't give them any ideas!
39 posted on 04/08/2014 8:01:56 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: BuffaloJack
Nothing like the feeling of having your life dependent upon the whims of an electronic circuit and a battery that was installed after sitting on a warehouse shelf for 9 years.

And produced by the lowest bidder; in China.

40 posted on 04/08/2014 8:02:31 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Let’s make a deal with them, that oh so wonderful compromise we always hear about.

Repubs will wear id indicating they have taken money from the Koch brothers and dems can wear a swastika as id showing they have taken money from any group associated with George Soros.


41 posted on 04/08/2014 8:04:57 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: SeekAndFind

Eric needs to wear an electronic bracelet when he gets out of prison, something that will shock him when he speaks.


42 posted on 04/08/2014 8:05:33 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind

Will Get Whitey racist’s Amish sons wear bracelets in their criminal lives? Get Whitey is as dumb as a rock.


43 posted on 04/08/2014 8:11:45 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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Eric Holder: Maybe lawful gun owners should have to wear electronic bracelets to use them

It's Eric Holder who should be wearing a pair of bracelets.

44 posted on 04/08/2014 8:16:55 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare is Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: Mouton

My thoughts too.


45 posted on 04/08/2014 8:17:13 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: lonevoice

I think this would be the tipping point.


46 posted on 04/08/2014 8:17:38 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: SeekAndFind

The word ‘infringed’ should be in any attorney’s vocabulary.

Here is an example of its use in a sentence: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”


47 posted on 04/08/2014 8:20:36 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nazi public policy bump for later....


48 posted on 04/08/2014 8:23:51 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: SeekAndFind

No but maybe mentally ill persons on medications should be required to wear monitoring bracelets and in the company of a legally guardian at all times if they cannot be held accountable for their own actions...

This antiamerican hoodlum has more respect for Mexican drug lords and the mentally ill than he does for the LEGAL gun ownership rights of Americans.


49 posted on 04/08/2014 8:31:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: jwalsh07

Maybe they should give everyone a mark on their right hand or their forehead. This same mark could be used to allow you to buy or sell, or receive benefits from The One Himself: Six Hundred, Threescore and Six.


50 posted on 04/08/2014 8:32:55 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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