Posted on 04/09/2014 2:09:13 AM PDT by kingattax
The actual bill that passed “originated” in the Senate. It may have had a house bill number but it was not a house bill. It was an abandoned house bill that had never been sent for a vote in the Senate before it was stripped of all of its text and title.
It was not intended at that time to be a revenue bill. It only became a revenue bill when John Roberts declared it to be one. The origination issue was never before the Supreme Court. It wasn’t raised because no one bothered to even make the argument that the penalty was not a penalty, but a tax.
The question before the court is whether this kind of political hanky panky is constitutional. Obviously you think it is.
There is a small number of orgination clause cases. The Courts have so far always deferred to Congress, not peeked behind the curtain. If the House objects on origination clause grounds, it knows how to stop the action.
This is what I've been saying since this unconstitutional act was "passed." It is a blatant violation of Article 1, Section 7. Unconstitutional acts have no weight and do not need to be obeyed.
James R. McClure Jr.
Jeffersonian Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN09
It is clear that the original bill was stripped and then became ObamaCare.
The ACA, as written, was NOT a tax bill, if you recall. They went to great lengths to swear that it was not a tax bill. That was until the ACA was challenging the right of the government to PENALIZE a citizen for a “failure to own something.” Penalized for what you hadn’t done and didn’t own rather than for what you had done.
John Roberts stepped in and declared the mandate a tax.
That means that the bill that was NOT written as a tax bill suddenly became a tax bill.
And, as such, it became a constitutional violation.
All of that aside, it should be a constitutional violation for any bill to be stripped of its original purpose and rewritten in Senate in a pretend “amending” of the bill.
this has nothing to do with “healthcare”. its all about tyranny.
Articles mean squat. Past practice does not make something Constitutional.
Well, it’s a darn shame that the very astute Dr Hotze did not hire you as his legal counsel. All of this time, effort and financial investment he has made and all for naught....according to you.
Dr Hotze should fire his attorney, Andy Schlaffly, immediately and seek your wise and humble counsel.
The “individual mandate” was not the only ‘tax’ in the Obamacare bill ... there were at least a dozen new taxes identified in the bill. For example: the medical device tax, the captial gains surcharge ... these are real taxes that were designed to raise revenue to offset the costs of the subsidies, and were also not legally imposed.
I was surprised that the judge didn’t throw the case out for “lack of standing”.
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