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Ripples of Nevada Range Showdown Spreading in West
The Blaze/AP ^ | Apr. 11, 2014 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 04/12/2014 9:11:47 PM PDT by kingattax

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Images of a forced cattle roundup on a rural Nevada range sent ripples through the West on Friday, prompting elected officials in several states to weigh in, militia members to mobilize and federal land managers to reshape elements of the operation.

Bureau of Land Management officials dismantled designated protest areas Thursday and Nevada’s governor urged calm as the fight over rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle widened into a debate about states’ rights and federal land-use policy.

The dispute that triggered the roundup dates to 1993, when the BLM cited concern for the federally protected tortoise. The agency later revoked Bundy’s grazing rights.

Bundy claims ancestral rights to graze his cattle on lands his Mormon family settled in the 19th century. He stopped paying grazing fees and disregarded several court orders to remove his animals.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: harryreid; neilkornze; nevada
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"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God" -- Thomas Jefferson
1 posted on 04/12/2014 9:11:47 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

The real battle begins...the battle for control of public opinion. How’s it going Neil?


2 posted on 04/12/2014 9:14:13 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: kingattax

3 posted on 04/12/2014 9:18:06 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: kingattax

This is a blue-purple state too. If they tried this crap somewhere like Mississippi or Oklahoma, we could have a real show of force and it would never last as long as this did.

We owe gratitude to the militias who came in to defend the Bundy family as well as the local protesters who trucked in food and drink to sustain everyone. This will go down as the Battle of Bunkerville.


4 posted on 04/12/2014 9:18:55 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: kingattax

Is there anything in America that is not owned by the Federal Government. Even your body is now their property. Really get a good look where we are. Really believe that America may be finished.


5 posted on 04/12/2014 9:20:49 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Viennacon
Obama: Shelter in Place...

TeaParty: Resist in Place.

6 posted on 04/12/2014 9:20:52 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: kingattax

Is it readily apparent why the feds want to disarm The American People yet? I’d say so. The lefties still don’t get it and won’t until their own parents are euthanized by Obamacare or they or their families are marched to firing lines once the feds don’t require their assistance anymore to effect the NWO and they are deemed non-productive “units”...


7 posted on 04/12/2014 9:24:55 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Republicanprofessor; Nachum; null and void; SeekAndFind; kristinn; upchuck; BuckeyeTexan; ...

I’m told that the State of Nevada has 82 % of its land under Federal Control.

What is the % of that 82 % in under the control the Federal Bureau of Feudal Land Management for “re-distribution” to Commune-orgaanized Obamanation?

Maybe Nevada Feudal Lord Reid, or his Commie Son might know - - - ?


8 posted on 04/12/2014 9:25:20 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

And Harry Reid’s involvement in this affair, if any, should also be investigated.


9 posted on 04/12/2014 9:25:56 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: jsanders2001

Those types are too stupid to realize they are nothing more than useful idiots and you would be wasting your time trying to convince them otherwise.


10 posted on 04/12/2014 9:30:01 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: kingattax
As a matter of fact there was a similar armed confrontation in Oregon in 2001. The attacks on 9/11/2001 diverted attention and the Bush Administration tried to make some accommodations IIRC.

The Stand at Klamath Falls, Eyewitness Accounts of Actions at the Headgates and their Impact, By: Jeff Head - July 13, 2001 through The Present [LAST UPDATED - June 2008]

People were gathering and local LE backed the farmers against the feds.

11 posted on 04/12/2014 9:30:01 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 353FMG

I doubt that will ever happen.


12 posted on 04/12/2014 9:31:02 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: kingattax

What is going to happen, if they keep pushing the protection of endangered species is going to result in the militias actively hunting to extinction these species.

Once the endangered species are extinct, problem solved.


13 posted on 04/12/2014 9:32:16 PM PDT by dila813
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To: kingattax
Bureau of Land Management officials dismantled designated protest areas...

Excuse me? There are official areas wherein our First Amendment rights are actually recognized by the federal government? Outside of which, what?

The hammer was so far up that nobody ever thought it was coming down, but it's coming down, and there isn't any stopping it.

14 posted on 04/12/2014 9:32:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: kingattax

So interesting:

Once there was a firm tie between “Harry Reid” and this mess, the goons changed totally.

I am SURE this has nothing to do with the approaching mid-term elections, right?

And the big casino pay-offs to Reid’s NYC broadway daughter, right?

Verrrry interesting...


15 posted on 04/12/2014 9:40:12 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Viennacon
We owe gratitude to the militias who came in to defend the Bundy family as well as the local protesters who trucked in food and drink to sustain everyone.

It was the Bundy's and close friends who first decided not to back down and defend. That determination and stand they took was the draw for many other like minded people, mostly from Nevada and the western states.

It took off like a fuse on the Internet, while most of the MSN had their heads up their asses, fixated on government corruption 10k miles away in Russia.

16 posted on 04/12/2014 9:43:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

When the hell did the BLM get all that battle rattle for their rangers?


17 posted on 04/12/2014 9:45:37 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

At our expense, how else? Gotta have their toys.


18 posted on 04/12/2014 9:47:36 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Army Air Corps

I am told by a FRiend I shall not name that the term is “Gear Queers”. :-)


19 posted on 04/12/2014 9:48:27 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dragnet2

Forget the MSM dinosaur media. They’re losing more market share every day as real Americans wake up to their lies. Drudge really took this story and ran with it.


20 posted on 04/12/2014 9:50:10 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Army Air Corps
When the hell did the BLM get all that battle rattle for their rangers?

My prediction is that some of the troops were actually Private Contractors simply wearing BLM patches, and based on how very badly the gummint screwed over Eric Prince that those hired PMC's were not Blackwater guys.

Some of the core goons were bearded, and I think these were men who had recently been working in the Middle East, since many locals there consider unbearded men as effeminate poofters.

My other prediction is that this gummint hostility resumed with great force after the mid-term elections in November.

21 posted on 04/12/2014 9:51:05 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

> Those types are too stupid to realize they are nothing more than useful idiots and you would be wasting your time trying to convince them otherwise.

Exactly the reason I no longer waste my breath on them. When I see the Soylent Green scoopers start up in our streets I’m just going to “accidentally” bump them into their path.


22 posted on 04/12/2014 9:52:39 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Billthedrill; Army Air Corps

How much do you wanna bet that these agents are not allowed to bring out the battle rattle when/if they encounter illegal aliens on federal land?


23 posted on 04/12/2014 9:54:48 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Viennacon

Yeah, the MSM has been in decline 15 years now. Hard not to notice. The cup droolers need somewhere to go.


24 posted on 04/12/2014 9:59:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Billthedrill

I thought AMERICA is a free speech zone. Where do these people get off...


25 posted on 04/12/2014 10:01:18 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: 353FMG

“And Harry Reid’s involvement in this affair, if any, should also be investigated.”

It would take an INCREDIBLY brave Congressman or Senator to do that, because you know that the moment that such an investigation is launched:

1) That person’s NSA Eavesdropping files will mysteriously end up in the hands of a liberal media sycophant.

2) Their IRS files will end up on a desk at OFA/SEIU.

3)Late-Night Comics and The Daily Show will run skit after skit demonizing them.

4) The OFA/Opem Society Orgs will have their millions of Twitter/Facebook fakes posting endlessly about how evil this person is.

5)Liberal media sycophants will devote endless hours to tearing this person down.

6) Deranged Daily Kos libs, enraged by lib media, will threaten their families and children.

And I’m sure that is just the tip of the iceberg, and it is all stuff THAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE...

Welcome to 1936 Germany, folks.


26 posted on 04/12/2014 10:03:50 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Logical me

That’s the problem here, the County bought up the ranchers land and then turned it over to BLM. Seems like it’s time to end feudalism, return the land to private ownership, or at least let the States control it. What purpose does the FEDERAL BLM serve anyway? Other than as we saw today, as is obviously part of the plan.

At least the feds were smart enough to realize this was a battle they could not win.


27 posted on 04/12/2014 10:11:05 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: kingattax

From Bunker Hill to Bunkerville..


28 posted on 04/12/2014 10:11:40 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

For illegals aliens, they probably deploy the fearsome benefits forms dispensers.


29 posted on 04/12/2014 10:20:02 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

lol did you forget the bean bags and orders to retreat given to Border Patrol?


30 posted on 04/12/2014 10:27:53 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: bigbob

The FEDs will never turn over a significant fraction of any western land because eventually they are going to use it and its mineral, grazing and water right resources as collateral to issue more government debt...

Gotta have lots of money to keep the parasites fed, or they will turn on the host!


31 posted on 04/12/2014 10:28:46 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: spokeshave

I’ll take it.


32 posted on 04/12/2014 10:33:08 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: kingattax; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’d originally thought Bundy to be a kook and a cheapskate, but the more I read about it the more logical his position is. I’d like to see Nevada’s governor ask to defuse the situation by having the Fedgov turn its lands over to the state for management. Let this be a local issue and if the locals are “concerned” about some turtle let them negotiate it out.


33 posted on 04/12/2014 10:36:39 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Yep, I remember that. We need to assert ourselves more often. In another five years or so every American city will be filled with heavily armed people. Then what will these statists do?


34 posted on 04/12/2014 10:39:09 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: gaijin

You fight on every front and then when a breakthrough occurs you pour everything into it. We got two breakthroughs: Reid’s involvement/chicanery and the people showed up (armed).

That classic pinchers movement works every time. Sadly, this guy is one in a million. They always take us down one at a time.


35 posted on 04/12/2014 10:41:17 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

That is a truly great pic.


36 posted on 04/12/2014 11:26:02 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: gaijin

Yes I think they were contracted - is it Blackstone?
Something like that..


37 posted on 04/12/2014 11:28:19 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Look how fast the feds made that fence to use against American citizens..imagine if the Govt worked that hard to make a fence to keep out illegals..we wouldn’t be in the situation we are in now


38 posted on 04/12/2014 11:36:08 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Viennacon

“This is a blue-purple state too.”

You could not be more wrong! Las Vegas is a liberal $hit Hole with most of the state’s population, but the rest of the state is very conservative.


39 posted on 04/12/2014 11:43:02 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

Re: “You could not be more wrong! Las Vegas is a liberal $hit Hole with most of the state’s population, but the rest of the state is very conservative.”

I agree with you about Las Vegas, unfortunately Reno, which used to be pretty conservative, has turned purple, if not blue. You are totally correct about rural Nevada - all true Patriots there.


40 posted on 04/12/2014 11:56:15 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: spokeshave

Common folk: Die while standing.


41 posted on 04/12/2014 11:59:38 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Islamunism = Facism + Islam : Islamunist = someone that adheres to Islamunism.)
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To: vette6387

Well, darn that’s the case in EVERY blue state except Rhode Island, Massascrewits and Vermont. Red rural areas are 90% of the land, politically dominated by blue city states. Example—

Illinois - Chicago
Michigan - Detroit
Wisconsin - Madison
Virginia - DC’s satellite suburbs

In presidential elections, these states along with Nevada all go blue because the decent folks like those who went to aid the Bundy family are outmanned and outspent.


42 posted on 04/13/2014 12:04:18 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: tcrlaf
"Welcome to 1936 Germany, folks."


43 posted on 04/13/2014 1:28:05 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Billthedrill

“I am told by a FRiend I shall not name that the term is “Gear Queers”. :-)”

Another term is Geardo (rhymes with weirdo).


44 posted on 04/13/2014 1:40:28 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Heck, the rules of engagement are probably tighter against Islamic terrorists in the ME.


45 posted on 04/13/2014 2:14:56 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: kingattax

I saw nothing about this on MSN and on ABC (’already been chewed’ news) they tried to paint it as ‘Vigilante Cranks On Parade.’

Of course, Cindy Shehag and her screwball retinue were saints keeping vigil at George Bush’s ranch. Obama’s Ministry of Truth.


46 posted on 04/13/2014 2:20:31 AM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: 1010RD

Yep, that’s the problem. They usually try to isolate the target (American law-abiding citizen, never an illegal alien or terrorist) and do their dirty work under the radar, so that the person feels alone and helpless against the might of Fedzilla. This guy was fortunate that his story went “viral”, and that he had other people nearby willing to respond and stand with him. Like Franklin said (I have the utmost respect for our founders’ prescience and understanding of human nature), “Gentlemen, we must stand together or we will hang separately”. That is the foundation of standing against tyranny-not being isolated from your fellow citizens.


47 posted on 04/13/2014 2:22:08 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: kingattax

Gotta believe the reception for these feds was less than enthusiastic
.
least I hope so.
Sorry, we don’t serve your kind around here.
Soooo, F- off


48 posted on 04/13/2014 3:35:30 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: mrsmel
"We must all hang together or we will surely hang separately."

Benjamin Franklin

49 posted on 04/13/2014 4:03:17 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 1010RD
RE: Klamath Falls

I recall local (Sacramento) talk shows getting calls from federal employees of BLM, Bureau of Reclamation, and others working in regional offices in Sacramento that included that part of Oregon.

They all sided with the farmers. IIRC.

Seems to me that civilian employees should borrow from the military and follow LAWFUL orders not the psycho whims of aged 1960s New Left Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brat, environmental nut cases (and their ideological issue). For VP Gore add corrupt dingbat.

50 posted on 04/13/2014 4:26:57 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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