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To: Mr Rogers; Lou Budvis; taxcontrol

Facts are not permitted in a discussion about Clevin Bundy. That was established the first time a poster quoted Bundy’s sovereign citizen defense and was immediately greeted by the response, and I quote it in its entirety: “Go to hell!”


25 posted on 04/15/2014 4:24:41 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Scoutmaster

I do not claim to be a Cliven Bundy expert. What I wrote was based, in part, upon some of his filings in federal court that I could get access to. Interestingly, there was no “sovereign citizen” defense in what I read, merely the articulation of some of the arguments I recited. I should say I call them “well-founded” in the sense of being based on the original and true conception of the Constitution, rather than being “well-founded” in light of modern federal case law.


27 posted on 04/15/2014 5:16:29 PM PDT by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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