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Beware The Increasing Militarization Of Government
Investors.com ^ | April 16, 2014 | IBD Editorial

Posted on 04/16/2014 5:44:26 PM PDT by jazusamo

Federal Fire Power: Instead of putting a lien on the property of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, the Bureau of Land Management surrounded his ranch with 200 armed agents. It's not the only agency with a private army.

Back in 2008, candidate Barack Obama slipped a little-noticed line in a speech, proposing a national police force reporting straight to him.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

As our military is slowly decimated by his policies and budget cuts — and with federal agencies arm to the teeth — we may be seeing what he had in mind at the ranch of a 67-year-old Nevadan.

Agents of a federal agency that many Americans were surprised to see so heavily armed even herded American citizens into "First Amendment zones," another surprise to those who thought the Constitution made the entire U.S. such a zone.

"The government's option," said Fox News contributor and former Judge Andrew Napolitano, "is to take the amount of money (Bundy) owes them and docket it — that is, file the lien on his property. The federal government could have done that.

"Instead, they wanted this show of force. They swooped in . . . with assault rifles aimed and ready and stole this guy's property, they stole his cattle. They didn't have the right to do that. That's theft, and they should have been arrested by state officials."

The Environmental Protection Agency also has a private army. In late August 2013, armed EPA agents joined agents of the Alaska Environmental Crimes Task Force and swarmed gold mines near Chicken in the Last Frontier State.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; blm; bundy; cattlebattle; cnsf; epa; firstamendment; militarization; national; obama; securityforce
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1 posted on 04/16/2014 5:44:26 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
Back in 2008, candidate Barack Obama slipped a little-noticed line in a speech, proposing a national police force reporting straight to him.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Can anyone imagine the outrage if Bush had wanted an "internal military' as strong as the military that has to deal with China, Russia and North Korea? It's time to end civil service protection. Each party should bring in their own people.

2 posted on 04/16/2014 5:58:38 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: jazusamo
Their numbers are miniscule compared to the citizenry.

They just don't know it yet.

3 posted on 04/16/2014 6:00:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: jazusamo

Beware The Increasing Militarization Of Government:
both Federal and local


4 posted on 04/16/2014 6:04:40 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: GOPJ

Exactly, if Bush would have announced that he’d have been eviscerated by the enemedia and liberals.

As it stands now the militarization of these agencies has gotten completely out of hand. Both the armed factions have to go as well as some of the agencies.


5 posted on 04/16/2014 6:09:49 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Nearly every government agency now has their own commando style swat teams and most of their facilities resemble fortresses...They led stupid Americans to believe this was all done to protect them.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 6:12:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Mariner

They also have to live somewhere and that information can be ferreted out and distributed as needed.


7 posted on 04/16/2014 6:13:42 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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8 posted on 04/16/2014 6:29:01 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo; All
Excellent article.

I have a question.

I read on another thread, that some of the supposed government agents threatening to shoot citizens at the Bundy ranch may have actually been mercenaries/foreign troops. If this turns out to be true- Isn't it treason?

Is arming federal agencies against Americans even Constitutional?

How the hell did all this happen?

9 posted on 04/16/2014 6:33:55 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: jazusamo

The best way to deal with this is with cartoons and radio skits mocking them. The Department of Checking Nursery School Toilets should NOT have it’s own SWAT Team.

Blowhards hate being mocked.


10 posted on 04/16/2014 6:37:02 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: Mariner

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


11 posted on 04/16/2014 6:39:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Pajamajan

BUMP


12 posted on 04/16/2014 6:45:19 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Pajamajan

I don’t have the answers. As much as I despise what has taken place with the sometimes murderous and heavy handedness of the feds I believe they were all federal employees. Arming these agents of different agencies like our military is an abuse of power in my view and should be stopped NOW.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 6:47:13 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: GOPJ

Well said!


14 posted on 04/16/2014 6:48:38 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: GOPJ
"The best way to deal with this is with cartoons and radio skits mocking them"

That's the necessary political front, but there's two more:

Courts. The Hage v US decision is excellent basis.

The armed. Armed men tend to get the attention of the other two.

Without armed men in Bunkerville, we would never have heard of Bundy or Water Rights...and most outside the West would not know anything about BLM or the ENORMOUS tracks of land they control.

Larger than any country in Europe.

15 posted on 04/16/2014 6:51:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
They also have to live somewhere and that information can be ferreted out and distributed as needed.

I have long suspected that there are citizen groups who have been gathering this sort of information and will indeed distribute it when the need arises.

16 posted on 04/16/2014 6:56:29 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: jazusamo

“Federal employees”. Hmmm. Find out the names and identities of these employees. Then go “find” their families, close friends etc. it’s what the Israelis do.....


17 posted on 04/16/2014 7:02:16 PM PDT by murrie (Mark Levin: Prosecuting stupidity nightly.)
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To: jazusamo

Ya see, the first bureaucrat that raises a stink in a case like this, needs a baseball bat upside the head.

EPA, BLM, IRS, HHS,.....Just to let them know that there’s a price for their utter stupidity. That would slow down some of this nonsense.

And....even if it resulted in a ban on baseball bats....there are an infinite number of substitutes, so as to make the ban irrelevant.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 7:02:37 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Pajamajan

may have actually been mercenaries/foreign troops. If this turns out to be true-

...it makes them TARGETS

but, I doubt that its true....


19 posted on 04/16/2014 7:04:18 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Mariner

>>Their numbers are miniscule compared to the citizenry. <<

We ain’t skeered


20 posted on 04/16/2014 7:04:31 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: jazusamo
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21 posted on 04/16/2014 7:10:57 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: GOPJ

“It’s time to end civil service protection. Each party should bring in their own people”

Or just eliminate the need:

Institute a flat tax with no deductions - lay off 90% of the IRS
Institute vouchers - hobble teachers’ unions
Devolve environmental protection to the state - eliminate the EPA

And in a related move:

End Federal backing for all student loans except for US citizens taking hard science/math/engineering courses - stop the taxpayer funded flow of free loaders feeding the left-wing “______-American Studies” and “Journalism” departments.

Just a thought.


22 posted on 04/16/2014 7:12:10 PM PDT by happyathome
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To: jazusamo

bttt


23 posted on 04/16/2014 7:26:42 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Mariner

They are also not counting on all the former military out here in flyover country.
Lots of people who were trained well.


24 posted on 04/16/2014 8:13:37 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: jazusamo
"Militarism"?

You mean building up our defense force so Ameirca is strong to protect her citizens and other free sovereign countries from aggressive foreign tyrants, right? That's a good thing, right? Right.

But, no. America now has a government headed by a hater of America and is itself becoming the very threat of tyranny it should be standing against. It is building a military force against the American People. This is the trademark of Marxism, Obama's ideal.

The American People have waited until now to deal with this out of control monster government. May the people and the states of our union repent from government dependency and turn again to faith in God, courage, bravery, and freedom.

25 posted on 04/16/2014 8:21:49 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Pajamajan
I read on another thread, that some of the supposed government agents threatening to shoot citizens at the Bundy ranch may have actually been mercenaries/foreign troops. If this turns out to be true- Isn't it treason?


Article III
Section. 3.
Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Waging war against "We The People" is the highest form of treason.

26 posted on 04/16/2014 8:34:08 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: jazusamo

The National Parking Lot Circus is another fed agency that is heavily armed and drooling to use their toys. A rangerette Tazed a guy in the back, in a newly-seized fed area near San Francisco. He had a dog off-leash.

And we all saw their might as they locked disabled veterans and so many others out of our public monuments and parks. Or, in some cases (Yellowstone), locked the public into hotels.


27 posted on 04/16/2014 8:47:50 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Pajamajan
Hate to say it but Americans have been asleep for a very long time,That's all I have been hearing for the last 15 yrs.wake up Americans and here are still trying to figure out what's going on.
28 posted on 04/16/2014 9:04:07 PM PDT by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: Pajamajan

Beware of conspiracy theories.


29 posted on 04/16/2014 9:47:24 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: Pajamajan; All
Is arming federal agencies against Americans even Constitutional?

What's the difference between an armed US Military Unit & an armed Militarized Federal Agency when it comes to employing overwhelming deadly force to achieve an objective? Not Much...

The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits a US Military Unit from enforcing law on US soil.

With numerous federal agencies creating militarized enforcement units, in essence violating the principle underlying the Posse Comitatus Act, I would say it's time to revisit the Posse Comitatus Act and redefine the prohibition from just exactly WHO is prohibited to exactly WHAT level of militarized force is prohibited.

I would imagine that if militarized federal agencies are no longer allowed, without an act of Congress (like a limited specific declaration of war), to law enforce on US soil by employing militarized forces that such militarized units would have to be disbanded.

30 posted on 04/16/2014 10:33:15 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Borax Queen

“He had a dog off-leash.”

Well, at least she did not shoot the dog! /s;)


31 posted on 04/16/2014 11:51:32 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Dick Bachert

But...they’re RESCUE vehicles...it says so! They’re here to HELP us! /s;)


32 posted on 04/16/2014 11:53:18 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Dick Bachert

Police state indeed.

And we just go merrily along in the comfort of knowing that voting every two years will restore our historic, God given republican freedoms.


33 posted on 04/17/2014 3:19:51 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Change is not made without inconvenience, even from worse to better - Richard Hooker. Article V.)
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To: Mariner

And they all have to live somewhere.


34 posted on 04/17/2014 4:04:15 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jazusamo
And all of this because of the "Kansas City Massacre" of FBI agents in 1933.

Voting with ones emotions leads to bad things.

35 posted on 04/17/2014 5:25:00 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: OldPossum

I hope so.


36 posted on 04/17/2014 7:35:42 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: PapaNew

BTTT


37 posted on 04/17/2014 8:21:09 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: Mariner
Their numbers are miniscule compared to the citizenry. They just don't know it yet.

And I think they may be pushing many people to the point of armed resistance and the sacrificing of themselves and federal thugs. They obviously don't know THAT yet either. It's almost like we as a country are headed for substantial reform of federal agencies and their demilitarization, or war and killing. It sure feels that way.
38 posted on 04/17/2014 8:29:27 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: Frank_2001

“Well, at least she did not shoot the dog! /s;)”

Miracle!

She was soon reassigned to the Grand Canyon — which actually is a step up for most of the rangers. They start out in urban areas to get experience but usually want to be in the actual national parks.


39 posted on 04/17/2014 8:36:33 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: jazusamo

This could be easily fixed if the gutless wonders in Congress simply stripped the funding for this from every agency that has its own militia.

To my knowledge, no member of Congress has even suggested doing so, much less come out forcefully for it.

And therein shows where their affinities lie.


40 posted on 04/17/2014 9:04:01 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: jazusamo

Welcome to the party Investors.com.

Many of us have been ‘bewaring’ the militarization of our government for many years.


41 posted on 04/17/2014 9:37:59 AM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: GOPJ

It should be pointed out to the writer of the article that Obama’s “little-noticed line” from 2008 was NOT “little noticed” in SOME circles.

Quite a few of us knew, and continue to know, exactly what he meant by it.


42 posted on 04/17/2014 9:41:22 AM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: primrose
Hate to say it but Americans have been asleep for a very long time,That's all I have been hearing for the last 15 yrs.wake up Americans and here are still trying to figure out what's going on.

Wasn't it Jefferson that said, with regard to democracy, a little blood in the street needed to happen every 20 years?

43 posted on 04/17/2014 9:43:28 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: meadsjn

...and it is not dependent upon the use of foreign troops.


44 posted on 04/17/2014 9:45:15 AM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: Go Gordon

No, I think that was Clemenza in the Godfather - and it was every 10 years.

Jefferson was a little more poetic:

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

;-)


45 posted on 04/17/2014 9:49:23 AM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: WayneS
...and it is not dependent upon the use of foreign troops.

Absolutely not. And IMNSHO, bureaucrats waging economic and political warfare against "We The People" are just as serious treasonous offenses as occasionally burglarizing residences, murdering citizens, and burning their families.

46 posted on 04/17/2014 9:57:14 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Mariner

There is indeed the matter of the 300+ million privately owned firearms in the US. The brownshirts need to remember to be polite and a little bit humble when planning moves to push regular folks around. The National Park brownshirts pushed their luck about as far as they had room to with the recent monument closings-—they need to pass that around the alphabets.


47 posted on 04/17/2014 10:54:25 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: WayneS

Yeah, I remember it too Wayne - - kinda wish our concern had been misplaced ....


48 posted on 04/17/2014 11:10:40 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

DINGY HARRY PING


49 posted on 04/17/2014 12:27:07 PM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: raptor22

LOL! When the next Koch brothers assault supposed to begin? Some reid-iculous sycophant here in Reno had a letter to the editor today spouting the evil Koch line. They were taking notes from hairy’s last screed about them. No mention that they are way down the list of political contributers and pale in comparison to the unions and uber rich self loathing folks.


50 posted on 04/17/2014 12:48:20 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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