Posted on 04/17/2014 11:35:37 AM PDT by SkyPilot
If I had any, mine would be in a LEGAL safe haven as well!
Jesus is GOD, the Holy Spirit is GOD, and, of course God the Father is God.
I'm trusting in Christ's words for my salvation - I've NOTHING else to rely upon.
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
I was quite surprised at his response. This is better than many televangelists I’ve seen on TV.
Oh?
10 of them had disappeared before Jesus of Nazareth was born.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Lost_Tribes
Whose view do you believe was/is more scripturally accurate? Arius, or Athanasius?
I'm sure that the FISHERMEN would be assumed at your statement...
And AMUSED at my spelling, as well!
Incredible claims need incredible proof.
Where's yours?
God inserted a 2,000 year age of grace after the jews rejected Jesus and stoned Stephen. As soon as the time is up things will resume where they were when Christ said what the bible says he said.
All Gods word is true I wish you could see that
“The role of the Messiah was to unite the twelve tribes and establish a kingdom of Israel. If he didn’t do that (which he didn’t) then he didn’t fulfill their prophecy”
That was what the Pharisees and Sadducees of the times always had interpreted the prophecies to read...but Jesus said to Pilate..”My kingdom is not of this world, if it was my servants would fight...”
Christ was of the Priestly order of Melchizidek, but the religious leaders of his times were expecting a King and Judge acting out of the priestly order of Aaron and the Levitical lines.
Whether you believe or not is one thing, but we have Jesus own words, at least as depicted in the Bible we have...(whether you believe it or not) who defined his own role to Nicodemus in John 3:16 “For God so loved the World, he gave his only begotten(conceived by the Holy Spirit) Son, that whosoever believes in Him would perish but have everlasting life.
I know you are skeptical of Christianity’s claims, but it least for the narrative’s sake, don’t take Jesus’ own words out of context. Though he came to preach to the Jews first, his ultimate mission was to seek and save that which was lost through out the world. World conquest via a vengeful Messiah was never to be Jesus’ mission. The saving of the world’s lost was Christ’s mission. Even though you are a religious skeptic, at least understand through Christ’s own words(you might qualify them as purported, being a skeptic and “stuff”) what his mission was and still is!
So I'm starting with the Isaiah, and it doesn't look like it's talking about a Messiah at all. I went back to Isaiah 51 and read through to 54, and he's talking about Zion (Israel) in general. Not Jesus, and not a Messiah. He's talking about all the things that Israel has been through: slavery, oppression, rejection, abandonment, and making promises that one day things will be better. This isn't prophecy about Jesus, this is the future of Zion.
This is my favorite line from that consensus builder, Jesus Christ:
Luke 14:25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said:
26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple
Tacitus writing in the Annals in about 116 A.D.:
"Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular."
Pliny the Younger in a letter to the Emperor Trajan in about 112 A.D. asking how to proceed with the Christians:
They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food--but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.
These few verses only scratch the surface. Also, the more you read and understand it is clear the entire OT foreshadows Christ.
I accept both of them as two interpretations, one earlier, one later. The eradication of one interpretation in the late is similar, in some aspects to the Protestant Reformation, or if the Eastern Orthodox churches had been proclaimed to be Heretical by Rome at sometime in the past.
Thanks for the ping. I liked Bono’s testimony.
Interesting. I'd like to learn more about the theory of race and disenfranchisement in America. Who exactly is the "ruling power"?
And now Caesar, upon hearing the death of Festus, sent Albinus into Judea, as procurator. But the king deprived Joseph of the high priesthood, and bestowed the succession to that dignity on the son of Ananus, who was also himself called Ananus... Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so he assembled the sanhedrin of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned.
and
Now some of the Jews thought that the destruction of Herod's army came from God, and that very justly, as a punishment of what he did against John, that was called the Baptist: for Herod slew him, who was a good man... Herod, who feared lest the great influence John had over the people might put it into his power and inclination to raise a rebellion... Accordingly he was sent a prisoner, out of Herod's suspicious temper, to Macherus, the castle I before mentioned, and was there put to death.
White atheists, obviously.
Thanks for posting. This was an awesome surprise.
I’d rather lean into my own understanding than stories from the Middle East. I’m American.
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