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To: KC Burke
Thanks. Perhaps the "remnant" spoken of by Kirk may exist and somehow constitute that "providential" act of which Burke spoke in your quotation above.

Meanwhile, we appear to fit the description provided by Madison: "Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ... the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government, they should watch over it ... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free."

So-called "progressives" understand the "divided" part of Madison's cautionary words, but the rest of us seem to ignore the rest of Madison's statement.

Might it have something to do with our not having been "well-instructed" in the ideas of freedom, as Russell Kirk pronounced in the final paragraph of my original post?

Edmund Burke, in his 1775 "Speech on Conciliation," observed the following "spirit" in the founding generations:

"Permit me, Sir, to add another circumstance in our colonies, which contributes no mean part towards the growth and effect of this untractable spirit. I mean their education. In no country perhaps in the world is the law so general a study. The profession itself is numerous and powerful; and in most provinces it takes the lead. The greater number of the deputies sent to the congress were lawyers. But all who read, and most do read, endeavour to obtain some smattering in that science. I have been told by an eminent bookseller, that in no branch of his business, after tracts of popular devotion, were so many books as those on the law exported to the plantations. The colonists have now fallen into the way of printing them for their own use. I hear that they have sold nearly as many of Blackstone's Commentaries in America as in England. General Gage marks out this disposition very particularly in a letter on your table. He states, that all the people in his government are lawyers, or smatterers in law; and that in Boston they have been enabled, by successful chicane, wholly to evade many parts of one of your capital penal constitutions. The smartness of debate will say, that this knowledge ought to teach them more clearly the rights of legislature, their obligations to obedience, and the penalties of rebellion. All this is mighty well. But my honourable and learned friend on the floor, who condescends to mark what I say for animadversion, will disdain that ground. He has heard, as well as I, that when great honours and great emoluments do not win over this knowledge to the service of the state, it is a formidable adversary to government. If the spirit be not tamed and broken by these happy methods, it is stubborn and litigious. Abeunt studia in mores. This study renders men acute, inquisitive, dexterous, prompt in attack, ready in defence, full of resources. In other countries, the people, more simple, and of a less mercurial cast, judge of an ill principle in government only by an actual grievance; here they anticipate the evil, and judge of the pressure of the grievance by the badness of the principle. They augur misgovernment at a distance; and snuff the approach of tyranny in every tainted breeze." (Underlining added for emphasis)

Burke also declared to the Parliament that what he called the colonists' "fierce spirit of liberty" also must be attributed to their "religion," "under a variety of denominations agreeing in nothing but in the communion of the spirit of liberty."

11 posted on 04/17/2014 1:40:28 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

Right now I am reading Robert Conquest’s “Dragons of Expectations” which I picked up when it came out in 2005 and never got finished.

One of the things he points out is that we are arguing with terms that are from ages long gone. Left - Right, Liberal- Conservative, Facist, Communist, Progressive, Democracy and many others are terms of such age and historical abuse that it makes our tasks of planning a good path all that more complicated.

He points out the poison of certain forces in the academic world — the same “Annointed” that Sowell refers to in the Vision of the Annointed and how it marginalizes religous roots in a culture.

We have to look to all of history for the answers and if we ignore the glamourus theories, the cold facts show us the way tempered by plain and sensible prudence.


12 posted on 04/17/2014 2:02:17 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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