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Russian Spy Planes in U.S. Skies
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Posted on 04/18/2014 8:54:24 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Russian Spy Planes in U.S. Skies By Eli Lake 12 hours ago The Daily Beast

The Joint Chiefs of Staff of the U.S. military and American intelligence agencies have quietly pushed the White House in recent weeks to deny a new Russian surveillance plane the right to fly over U.S. territory. This week, the White House finally began consideration of the decision whether to certify the new Russian aircraft under the so-called “Open Skies Treaty.” And now the question becomes: Will the spies and generals get their way?

As the United States and Russia face off publicly over Ukraine, behind the scenes, Obama’s national security cabinet is having its own quiet feud over a long-standing agreement to allow Russian surveillance flights over U.S. air space.

The spies and the generals want to deny the Russians the overflight rights for its latest surveillance planes. The State Department, which ultimately makes that decision, has favored such certification. On Wednesday an interagency meeting of senior officials failed to reach consensus, delaying the decision until Obama takes it up with the National Security Council, according to U.S. officials involved in the dispute.

At issue is the Open Skies Treaty. First signed in 1992 and finally ratified in 2002, the treaty adopted by 34 nations allows the safe passage of planes equipped with advanced cameras and sensors that give governments the imagery and data they use to assess everything from compliance with arms control treaties to troop movements.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: espionage; nationalsecurity; obama; openborders; openskies; russia; spyplanes; treaty
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1 posted on 04/18/2014 8:54:24 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

This has been an ongoing issue and GOP leadership has been completely MIA.


2 posted on 04/18/2014 8:59:04 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
GOP leadership

Talk about an oxymoron.

3 posted on 04/18/2014 8:59:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sub-Driver
First signed in 1992 and finally ratified in 2002

Judging by those dates, it looks like this is more stupidity from the Bush family.

4 posted on 04/18/2014 9:00:00 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Sub-Driver
Ask only one thing: What decision will hurt America more?

The answer is the decision that Obama will take.

5 posted on 04/18/2014 9:01:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Sub-Driver
GOP leadership

?

6 posted on 04/18/2014 9:02:48 AM PDT by Road Warrior 04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Sub-Driver
I'm sure there's much more to this than we will ever be told.

IIRC, we had a joint venture with the military not too far back....in the US proper.

7 posted on 04/18/2014 9:03:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

Considering the treaty allows over flights of almost the entire former Soviet Union by United States surveillance aircraft, it makes me wonder what rationale is being pushed for breaking this treaty.


8 posted on 04/18/2014 9:06:44 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Sub-Driver

http://www.businessinsider.com/joint-us-russia-military-drills-2012-4


9 posted on 04/18/2014 9:07:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/17/russia-blocks-us-treaty-approved-spy-flights/


10 posted on 04/18/2014 9:09:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Major Matt Mason

Yep.


11 posted on 04/18/2014 9:09:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: mac_truck

see my post at 10


12 posted on 04/18/2014 9:10:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

Its all part of 0’s “flexibility”.


13 posted on 04/18/2014 9:11:11 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Lazamataz

Scary is that back then protection of the “environment” was seen as an eventual extension of the treaty.

“Envisaging the possible extension of the Open Skies regime into additional fields, such as the protection of the environment,”
http://dtirp.dtra.mil/TIC/treatyinfo/os_text.htm#preamble

Good Lord. . .


14 posted on 04/18/2014 9:11:16 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Sub-Driver

This administration is determined to provoke a war.


15 posted on 04/18/2014 9:18:47 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: dfwgator

“GOP leadership
Talk about an oxymoron.”

“When someone says to you, “Lead, follow or get out of the way”, you’re not supposed to get out of the way. It’s supposed to make you lead!”
Sgt. to Private Not Sure, `Idiocracy’

In Private GOP’s defense, he’s perfectly willing to follow, on Obama’s flexibility, taxing, spending, amnesty, “reasonable” gun control, etc.


16 posted on 04/18/2014 9:21:26 AM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: Sub-Driver
I remember these things.

Seems like they would fly down the west coast.

17 posted on 04/18/2014 9:23:25 AM PDT by McGruff (You believe what your government tells you. Don't you?)
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To: Sub-Driver

They’re afraid one of their drones that’s spying on the government will crash into one of our government’s drones that’s spying on the citizens.


18 posted on 04/18/2014 9:30:15 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Major Matt Mason

Yes...HW Bush in 1992, and then ratified by the Senate in 2002.

How absolutely insane and crazy can we be?

We have the ability to conduct such surveillance to other potential adversary nations without a treaty...and then turn around and give them the right to do the same thing...something they could otherwise not do, by treaty?

A strategic advantage simply given away whole cloth.

We have long had leadeship in this country who are abetting with and in bed with our adversaries.

But, IMHO, none worse than, or more blatant about it, than the current occupant of the White House.


19 posted on 04/18/2014 9:34:55 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Major Matt Mason

..... and their globalist NWO dreams.


20 posted on 04/18/2014 9:38:42 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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