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1 posted on 04/19/2014 11:24:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Disagree. The “takers” in this case are those receiving massive subsidies.

The majority of those who sign up are paying through the nose.

No contest.


2 posted on 04/19/2014 12:01:49 PM PDT by Herodes
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So who has, in fact, been harmed by Obamacare? The first question, of course, is what "harmed" means. But let's define it as anyone who faces higher premiums, or higher deductibles — adding up to a total higher cost — and/or a narrower choice of hospitals, doctors and prescription drugs than they had before.

How can he not include the biggest groups, who have been well-publicized for some number of years now?:
- "the 49ers" -- people laid off so their company could be under the 50 full-timer count
- "the 29ers" -- full-timers cut to 29-hour-per-week part-timers
- "the 79ers" -- (not well publicized though) insurance agents laid off so their insurance company is now paying out more than 80% of premiums as benefits

4 posted on 04/19/2014 12:24:48 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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Will takers outvote the makers?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Yes...because the TAKERS will vote for the Makers.

Even if there are more Makers, far too many of us (ME INCLUDED) used to hold our nose and vote for the GOPe, who, in essence is just LIB Lite(r).

I will no longer be doing that as it turns out all WE are (were) doing was making the GOPe come in a ‘close second’. Until they start getting the ‘crap beat out of them - with Reagan like numbers, there will NEVER be a change.

And, just as a matter of happening, the LIBs keep creating more TAKERS just by the nature of their actions and they keep extending and upping the freebies, which will just attract more TAKERS.

Sorrowfully, none of ‘our’ reps have the gonads to stand up to the Regime - at least not until AFTER the fact and it gets to the point where NOTHING can be done about it.


5 posted on 04/19/2014 12:26:03 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".))
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I simply have no faith in the electoral system in this country. The only way a Communist/Democrat/Mugabe doesn’t win is if the race is such a blowout that they can’t cheat..


6 posted on 04/19/2014 12:59:33 PM PDT by cardinal4
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whether the Conservatives win will depend on us. If we get hung up one issue litmus tests, they will win. Most every good conservative candidate has at least one issue we don’t like and unfortunately we have folks who will stay home - Again!!


9 posted on 04/19/2014 3:40:53 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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The 2012 elections showed us we are past the tipping point where Takers out number the Makers. It is only going to get worse.


12 posted on 04/19/2014 4:29:08 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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The people who are benefited by this are the people who vote for him anyhow.... they are accustomed to being on the dole. Those who are part of the work force, pay taxes and had a good health insurance plan, who voted for Obama and Democrats in the past, will rebel as more and more cancellation notices go out.


13 posted on 04/19/2014 5:05:53 PM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorsed McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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Poll: Nearly Two-Thirds Of Veterans Disapprove Of Obamacare
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/04/19/Poll-Nearly-Two-Thirds-Of-Vets-Disapprove-Of-Obamacare


15 posted on 04/19/2014 9:06:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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