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Glaring limits of the Civil Rights Act: We need to redistribute wealth
Salon ^ | 4/15/2014

Posted on 04/20/2014 9:08:59 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

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To: ifinnegan

You sound like a weak idiot willing to kowtow to those who would do you and yours harm. You want to kiss the ass of those who enact laws against you, those who use race as a battering ram while screaming ‘racism’ but all the while work work, vote and act as a race. See race as an excuse for out of control crime, families and culture please help yourself but most people are starting to see it and call it for what it is.

Live not by lies AH.


61 posted on 04/20/2014 11:19:59 AM PDT by Altura Ct. (i)
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To: Altura Ct.

We’ve ALREADY redistributed trillions in wealth since the Great Society. It’s done crap b/c it’s been wasted on failed programs, people that don’t appreciate it wasting it, pissing it away and still remaining poor. People deciding they’ll just stay on welfare forever, why leave it b/c it’s money they don’t have to do anything to get!

We need to END welfare for most people in this country. Go to your families. Go to your churches. Private charities. Stop using the force of government to take what belongs to your neighbors. You have no moral right to anyone else’s money.


62 posted on 04/20/2014 11:28:06 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

It’s because for urban blacks, if they do all that stuff you mentioned, they will get ripped by other blacks for being “too white”. And they are scared of being called that. They like being part of the crowd that hates whitey and beats up on whitey. If they are too much like whitey they might become a target too.


63 posted on 04/20/2014 11:30:00 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Truth hurts. I rest my case.


64 posted on 04/20/2014 11:39:55 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Altura Ct.

And So The Author PrOPoses We Correct The Inequalities By Lowering Everyone To A Lowest Common denominator?


65 posted on 04/20/2014 11:58:41 AM PDT by Conservative_caterer (On vacation...)
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Thank you for referencing that article Altura Ct.. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

... Although the Civil Rights Act, the landmark legislation which just reached its 50th anniversary, made great strides in desegregating the economy, ...

Never accept the premise of your opponent's argument.

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

The MAJOR constitutional problem with civil rights legislation from the 1960s is the following imo. Congress must be able to justity any law that it makes with enumerated powers which the states have delegated to it via the Constitution.

More specifically, the states made Section 5 of the 14th Amendment to grant Congress the specific power to strenthen only those rights which the states have amended the Constitution to protect. Such rights include not only the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, but also the voting rights amendments, for example, which are the 15th, 19th, 24th and 26th Amedments. In fact, the voting rights amendments reflect on Section 5 of 14A by clarifying that Congress has the power to make legislation to strengthen such rights.

So while I agree in principle with the desegration aspects of the Civil Rights Act, the MAJOR constitutional problem with desegration laws is that the states have never amended the Constitution to grant Congress the specific power to legislatively address such issues. In other words, the Civil Rights Act was wrongly established outside the framework of the Constitution imo. (It also doesn't help when activist justices wrongly "amend" segregation laws to the Constitution from the bench.)

And there are all kinds of federal laws which Congess cannot justify under its constitutionally delegated powers imo. And the dark reason for such laws is the following imo. Constitutionally indefensible federal taxing and spend laws in particular have been in the books since the days of Constitution-ignoring socialist FDR. Justice John Marshall warned us about such taxes as evidenced by the following excerpt.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

The FDR legacy of illegal federal tax appropriation laws has resulted in a tsunami of such taxes being paid by low-information citizens, citizens who have never been taught about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers.

And to keep the tsunimi of illegal federal taxes rising year after year, corrupt politicians have promised low-information voters everything under the sun, including segregation laws, laws which are based on constitutionally nonexistent federal government powers. The real goal of such politicians is undoubtedly to get elected to Congress (or to remain in office) to "guard" taxpayer dollars.

Remember, the road to DC is paved with vote-winning legislation which is based on powers that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to make.

66 posted on 04/20/2014 1:08:01 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Altura Ct.
Although the Civil Rights Act, the landmark legislation which just reached its 50th anniversary, made great strides in desegregating the economy, economic discrimination is still widespread, and anti-discrimination legislation alone can never rectify the economic damage inflicted upon blacks by slavery and our Jim Crow apartheid regime.

I don't know where the moron factory is which produces these MENSA candidates who write such childish drivel.
I can just keep reminding myself, In any kind of a dialogue, NEVER ACCEPT YOUR ENEMY'S PREMISE!

Economic discrimination?
WTF is that?

In a free society, any and all fools are free, by their choices, to eschew the work and effort necessary to avoid economic failure.
The resulting "economic discrimination" is entirely a monster of their own creation.
Make your choices and deal with the consequences.

Their life choices, in a nutshell, is defined by the idea, "Why do I need to expend years of effort educating myself to achieve a good life, when with a gun and an attitude, I can get anything I want any time I want it?"

To label that "discrimination" is an obscenity!

67 posted on 04/20/2014 1:58:39 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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I work at Raytheon, and was part of a 12 person team interviewing potential college new hires about 12 years ago. By coincidence, there were 12 candidates and four open slots. After the interview, all the interviewers made separate anonymous evaluations. The hands down winner was a kid from WPI, who had a pony tail, wore sneakers and a suit, and played in a rock band. But he had a child with his girlfriend and needed insurance, so he was motivated, and he really knew his stuff. One of the 12 was from Tuskegee. While he was clearly the most personable, I rated him last, and he did not appear in the top four. The selection process was headed by two women from human relations, one of whom was black. The recommendation (go nogo) process was not anonymous and, they could not hire anyone without all twelve interviewers’ recommendation. One veto was sufficient. I was was the only hold out against hiring him. He was so manifestly and objectively unqualified I could not recommend him. He was a pure bullshitter. The black HR woman was obviously steamed at me, but I would *not* relent. It was a long and uncomfortable night. Fortunately, they never asked me back, which saved me gas, mileage and time.


68 posted on 04/20/2014 2:17:37 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

It was a long and uncomfortable night.


you mean for everyone else, right?


69 posted on 04/20/2014 2:31:58 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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Mostly for me. I think at least eight other raters agreed with me but didn’t want to stand up. I was playing on their court, but I would not yield.


70 posted on 04/20/2014 2:36:25 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Altura Ct.
Maybe they should try redistributing jobs instead of wealth and see what happens.

Go ahead and mandate hiring people with black sounding names, and then let's track actual wealth generating job performance.

That's fair, isn't it? And the person gets the extra benefit of satisfaction from a job well-done, pride in accomplishment, and being a role model for others.

-PJ

71 posted on 04/20/2014 2:56:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Good story. Why do we allow idiots to run HR departments? I once got into a minor legal mess with a lawyer very much like the Tuskegee grad you mention. He had lots of excuses and ruined my case.

Your Tuskegee grad was like Obama
72 posted on 04/20/2014 6:10:14 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Why do we allow idiots to run HR departments?

So that companies can avoid being sued for Discrimination.

73 posted on 04/20/2014 6:11:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dennisw

They’re not all black, is correct, but they are all anti-white. Like Tim Wise.


74 posted on 04/20/2014 6:25:54 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Good for you for not being intimidated into denying a qualified person the position.


75 posted on 04/20/2014 6:34:08 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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Today to be part of an anti-racism movement means you are anti-white. And many whites are in this so called movement.
The short version is>>>
anti-racism is code for anti-white


76 posted on 04/20/2014 7:57:56 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dfwgator

Just think of the Federal Government as one giant HR department....affirmative action oriented of course


77 posted on 04/20/2014 8:05:51 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Dittos to what you said Ping


78 posted on 04/21/2014 11:12:53 AM PDT by Swen Manuela1
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I’ve heard that Raytheon is making an honest effort to hire disabled veterans. As regards minorities in the technical fields, are there really that many that even apply? I teach locally and during graduation, our technical colleges have virtually no blacks (lots of Asians & Indians though) graduating with STEM degrees.


79 posted on 04/24/2014 6:37:51 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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