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Nevada politicians fan the flames of Bundy-BLM clash
Las Vegas Review Journal ^ | April 19, 2014 | By Laura Myers

Posted on 04/20/2014 11:45:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

By the time Gov. Brian Sandoval criticized the Bureau of Land Management for creating an “atmosphere of intimidation” while rounding up Cliven Bundy’s cattle, the militias were already on their way to Bunkerville, ground zero for what turned into an armed confrontation between gun-toting citizens and federal officers.

As governor, Sandoval had every right to weigh in and try to tamp down BLM’s tactics. It worked. Under political pressure and the threat of violence, the agency shut down the weeklong roundup April 12 and released several hundred “trespass cattle” that had roamed the federal public land for 20 years while Bundy refused to pay $1 million in BLM grazing fees.

“No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans,” Sandoval said in an April 8 statement in which he called on the BLM to take down designated “First Amendment” areas set aside for American flag-carrying demonstrators who were backing Bundy. “The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly,” the Republican added.

Sandoval was just one of more than a dozen politicians and candidates from Nevada and neighboring states who publicly denounced the BLM, although views were sharply divided on whether the agency, backed by court orders, had the legal right to remove Bundy’s cattle from land his family maintains it has been on since the 1870s.

Each time a public official or political candidate spoke out for or against the BLM or Bundy, the comments added fuel to an already hot-burning fire that quickly turned into a national inferno, pitting the romantic image of the cowboy rancher against the behemoth federal government that owns 85 percent of the Silver State.

WHEN THINGS GOT INTENSE...

(Excerpt) Read more at reviewjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: banglist; blm; bundy; bundyranch; militia; nevada; tyranny

1 posted on 04/20/2014 11:45:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s a confluence of many issues that has come to a head in Nevada. One is the Feds with their overreaching bureaucratic rules that should be re-visited and many of them should be expunged.


2 posted on 04/20/2014 11:52:13 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Jim Robinson
We have the hatred of the Las Vegas Review Journal on our side, so we're off to a good start....
3 posted on 04/20/2014 11:55:41 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Red Steel

Which should be expunged? The regulations or the feds?


4 posted on 04/20/2014 11:57:18 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Jim Robinson

Quick question - if I trespass on a neighbor’s land.....does he

a) Call the sheriff
b) Form his own army to intimidate me?

Even if Bundy had lost in the courts, I fail to understand why the feds get to enforce the court order.....and ad lib by murdering cattle, etc.


5 posted on 04/20/2014 12:00:34 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Red Steel

I don’t understand state, county and local officials not defending the right of their citizens to graze that land. We used to be a nation of state’s rights for anything not specifically in the Constitution.


6 posted on 04/20/2014 12:01:07 PM PDT by grania
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To: dforest

“What difference at this point does it make?”


7 posted on 04/20/2014 12:02:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

if our Federal LEO’s get pulled into Reid’s corruption as minions of his bidding they shall lose all respect of this entire nation . Instead of setting up ‘ a taskforce’ to hassle the ranchers , they should set up a taskforce to look at Harry Reid’s blatant corruption and malfeasance in office . THAT would be serving the people . Think , LEO’s , think . Don’t be deceitfully used .


8 posted on 04/20/2014 12:04:32 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Jim Robinson
"They know we're coming." With piss-poor operational security, Feds flood the zone at Las Vegas
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3146655/posts

The Sipsey Street Irregulars are saying that The Empire is coming:

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/04/they-know-were-coming-with-piss-poor.html

On this Easter Sunday, may God be with the brave American patriots with Bundy, and against Harry Reid's Domestic Terrorists, the Badges with automatic weapons.

9 posted on 04/20/2014 12:05:18 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: lacrew

“A Republic—if you can keep it,” comes to mind.


10 posted on 04/20/2014 12:06:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m betting “cattle futures”, aren’t you, Redbone? ;-)


11 posted on 04/20/2014 12:06:29 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Jim Robinson

I noticed Heller is calling for hearings. Reid is not.
Is Reid hiding something? Something he does not want exposed
by hearings?

Me thinks so.


12 posted on 04/20/2014 12:06:47 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Jim Robinson
Ventura County Tea Party blogs are reporting that

Here we go again-help needed at Bundy Ranch- NOW!
April 19, 2014
http://venturacountyteaparty.ning.com/profiles/blogs/here-we-go-again-help-need-at-bundy-ranch-now

Folks,

Below is a message I received from Sue DeLemus a bit earlier today. I wasn't at home so I didn't get to access it until now. It is critical that you read every word of this message and then react. It looks like the Feds are building up for a raid on the Bundy Ranch and we have four brave Americans in the group that is defending the ranch. Three of these men are prior Marines so I am asking all you Marines out there to get involved. The same goies for Army, Navy, Airforce and Coast Guard Vets. WE need Oathkeepers and III %ers, as well. In face, we need every able bodied person who can show up in Nevada, to do so ASAP. This includes regular Americans who would be willing to go and have their eyes and cameras on the Feds. We also need fully equipped Patriots to get there quickly. We can stop this tyranny if 4,000 - 5,000 people show up but you have to act quickly. This is an early Operation American Spring. If we can't react to this event in large numbers then I can assure you that Operation American Spring will be in jeopardy. So, please spread the word to your entire list and get back to me if you have the ability to fly out there or would be willing to team up with others and drive. Time is of the essence.

Sincerely,

Jack Kimball
_________________

Hi Everyone,

Apparently some people are having trouble viewing my Facebook page and one person suggested that Facebook may be trying to block my site. Is anyone familiar with this happening and what I can do about it? In the meantime I need you to post and share this update for me so people will know what's going on

UPDATE!!!
I'm talking with Jerry right now. (At about 10:30 EST) He said that a Law Enforcement Officer told him last night that Federal agents are being moved into Las Vegas. The Officer claimed that there were about 140 agents in the city. Recon sent in by Jerry found that there are more agents than can be counted! The hotels are being filled with Federal Agents, Rangers and FBI arriving in unmarked vehicles. Most of the vehicles are white, some are black. They are being parked in secure areas and are under lock and key and some are in back parking as well. So no one can nosing around. Never mind those who may be flying in. They're obviously building up for something. Three guesses what they could be up to. More Patriots are needed out there. Rotation is indeed in place. The Patriots who are there need all the help they can get in every way possible. It's still very serious out there. Las Vegas is 80 miles away from the Bundy property. So maybe an hour a half away. NOT FAR!! If you're planning to answer to the call, gear up and bring food. They're running a little low right now and Pray, Pray, Pray. Please share this one like mad!!!

Yours Truly,
Sue D.

13 posted on 04/20/2014 12:13:13 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Bump


14 posted on 04/20/2014 12:15:56 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: dforest

Lets go with the obvious. Grazing fees. The government does not plant, water, or provide the light to grow desert shrubs that cows eat. The shrubs naturally regrow on their own over the century despite being on the cattle menu. And if an area does get over eaten, the area or field goes into natural fallow, which the desert shrubs will eventually recover without any federal government intervention.

So what we have here is a government that has little overhead cost, but gain financially with very little effort. A financial windfall and money maker for government bureaucrats, an easy way to fleece cattlemen, to spend as they want. Does the fees go into an “AlGore lock-box?” I doubt that LoL. Have you seen the price of steaks lately? It’s better to return those fees to the tax payers at the grocery store.


15 posted on 04/20/2014 12:20:47 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Jim Robinson

As an immigrant myself, it is a beautiful example of why we are permitted to ‘bear arms.’ I do not believe for one minute that the BLM would have backed down without the armed resistance.


16 posted on 04/20/2014 12:28:10 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Jim Robinson

“armed confrontation between gun-toting citizens and federal officers. “

Anytime you see writing like this you can bet your last $$$ that the reporter, his boss and the owner of the paper are Nazis, bought and payed for.


17 posted on 04/20/2014 12:31:57 PM PDT by DanZ
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To: Red Steel; Jim Robinson

I posted a short while back that I don’t feel these people need to pay grazing fees. They provide us with food to eat.

Well, at least for the recipients of EBT cards anyway. Most of us hardly remember the taste of a steak. But then, this is what happens when the food producers are regulated and hassled by government. They wish us to die and they are in the process of setting this scenario up in many different ways.

At the very least, I hope we fight back.


18 posted on 04/20/2014 12:39:03 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Jim Robinson

Fanning the Flames is EXACTLY what was necessary!

It has started the conversation as to the Constitutional role these federal agencies play, in these situations.

Hopefully it is the beginning of the end for the expansion of federal usurpation of State authority.


19 posted on 04/20/2014 12:51:45 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wait until the feds show up at the Red River between Oklahoma and Texas border and try to take Texas land.


20 posted on 04/20/2014 12:51:52 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: dforest; Jim Robinson

What’s that term I hear? Oh yeah, we’re “useless eaters” Heh.

Bill Clinton - Stroke of the pen. Law of the land. Kinda cool.

Bureaucrat, circa 1907 - Grazing fees: stroke of the pen. law of the land, kinda cool.


21 posted on 04/20/2014 12:56:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Jim Robinson
"As governor, Sandoval had every right to weigh in and try to tamp down BLM’s tactics. It worked. Under political pressure and the threat of violence, the agency shut down the weeklong roundup April 12 and released several hundred “trespass cattle”"

Uh, just where was Clark County Sheriff Gillespie and his deputies when the feds were doing their illegal "work"?

22 posted on 04/20/2014 1:01:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: lacrew
I got your Clark County, Nevada Sheriff right here:


23 posted on 04/20/2014 1:09:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

As I understand it this is Nevada State land.

The BlM so called managed it, and managed to run all the ranchers out of business. Which means nobody is employed or makes money and pays taxes.

Nevada has a budget deficit, it should take the land back from BLM, and bring in businesses and give them land free for 50 years to locate here and lower the unemployment rate.

Rumor is Reid is building a Solar power panel farm on the land, with Chinese money.

Reid sure hasn’t kept Nevada from having the most foreclosures and highest jobless rate.

In Vegas there are 50,000 bank repo-ed homes off market to be worked thru, plus another Vegas homes that have received notice of eviction and foreclosure in process now.

Yet as of the moment homes for sale in Vegas is in tight inventory.

As rates rise for a new mortgage to 5% and higher, this will
kill the real estate market, home building market, and hurt tax receipts.

Taking over the land from BLM is a good move for Sandoval


24 posted on 04/20/2014 1:50:57 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Red Steel
How did the BLM determine that Bundy owes them $1 million? It certainly looks like they are coming up with exorbitant demands to make it impossible to continue ranching.

The entire Mexican Cession cost the US $15 million in 1848 (perhaps $300 million in current dollars). The land in question is a tiny fraction of 1/300th of the Mexican Cession.

25 posted on 04/20/2014 2:04:32 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus (ADES)
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To: Verginius Rufus

The usual mysterious Dem, government accounting. I’ve read it’s about $200k when the goverment was pressed.

$1 million bucks sounds so much baaaader in the press.


26 posted on 04/20/2014 2:21:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: kiryandil

From the OathKeepers site, it is being reported that the Bundy daughter is telling everyone to ignore any information that is not posted on her facebookpage, as there is a lot of partial and downright wrong information being posted in far too many other places. Do not believe it unless she posts it as being true.


27 posted on 04/20/2014 2:38:41 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Paladin2
Uh, just where was Clark County Sheriff Gillespie and his deputies when the feds were doing their illegal "work"?

That is a good question. What was his swat truck doing out there? Protecting the Bundy's? The Vegas Police department is run by the sheriff's department.


28 posted on 04/20/2014 2:50:44 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Utilizer

Imposters crying wolf is what it is. Pretty soon nobody will pay attention when the time comes.


29 posted on 04/20/2014 2:52:37 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

I saw the LVPD SWAT vehicle and a bunch of guys with a generic “Police” script on their assault uniforms, but have not seen any pics with a Clark County Sheriff ID on it.


30 posted on 04/20/2014 2:53:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Karl Spooner
"The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department (LVMPD) was formed on July 1, 1973, by merging the Las Vegas Police Department with the Clark County Sheriff's Department. Metro serves the city limits of Las Vegas and the unincorporated areas of Clark County."

Weird. My bad...

31 posted on 04/20/2014 2:54:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

It’s run by the sheriffs department. Take a look at wiki.


32 posted on 04/20/2014 2:55:58 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

See #31...


33 posted on 04/20/2014 2:56:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Wasn’t Gillepsie’s SWAT team at the Bundy Ranch, preparing to shoot protesters last weekend?

If true, he should resign immediately.


34 posted on 04/20/2014 3:02:25 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Apparently. Once I-15 got shutdown apparently more popos arrived.


35 posted on 04/20/2014 3:03:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
"On July 10, Erik Scott, a West Point and Duke graduate, went shopping at Costco in Summerlin, Nevada. He was carrying a concealed firearm, as permitted by Nevada state law. Witness and officer reports differ on what happened next. Allegedly, Scott began acting bizarrely, and would not leave the store. Some accounts indicate Xanax and pain killers were in his system after subsequent testing.

It is not disputed that police were called to Costco, and upon seeing Scott, demanded that he drop his weapon (this was recorded on the 911 call, as well as confirmed by a witness). As Mr. Scott reached for his holstered gun (which never left the holster) to drop his weapon, police shot him 2 times in the chest, 5 times in the back, killing him (more here)."

You mean these minions of The Sheriff?

36 posted on 04/20/2014 3:24:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Yeah, we are on the same page now.


37 posted on 04/20/2014 3:35:59 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Paladin2

Yeah, I remember Erik Scott.

The way I heard the story at the time, Erik Scott was planning a camping trip, and while in Costco, he was trying to see if some bottled water that Costco was selling would fit in his back pack.

A nervous Nellie employee caught a glimpse of Mr. Scott’s legal concealed firearm when he reached for the bottles, and called police, telling them that “a man with a gun” was in the store.

When Mr. Scott exited the store, he was told both to drop his weapon and put his hands up. When Mr. Scott tried to comply with the conflicting demands, he was shot and killed. Two of the Las Vegas Metro cops who shot Mr. Scott were later promoted!

The Costco security tapes and the police tapes were conveniently erased or “accidentally” destroyed.


38 posted on 04/20/2014 3:37:43 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Good Job, Sheriff Gillespie.....


39 posted on 04/20/2014 3:41:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Why do you think that gate guard wanted only Cliven an his son admitted in?


40 posted on 04/20/2014 3:44:41 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Chode

Your Pew Pew pictures of Officer Curly are needed on this aisle...


41 posted on 04/20/2014 4:13:25 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
here ya go...


42 posted on 04/20/2014 5:13:24 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

That guy has got to have an IQ in the strasotphere, like 75-80, right?


43 posted on 04/20/2014 5:25:32 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: MileHi
room temperature is about it... i think he's the mutt that shot the Veteran in the target parking lot a year or so ago
44 posted on 04/20/2014 6:17:53 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Utilizer
From the OathKeepers site, it is being reported that the Bundy daughter is telling everyone to ignore any information that is not posted on her facebookpage, as there is a lot of partial and downright wrong information being posted in far too many other places. Do not believe it unless she posts it as being true.

OK, thanks.

Kind of an informational "choke point", though, if they manage to neutralize her Internet connection.

45 posted on 04/20/2014 6:53:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

True. Hopefully, someone has already pointed this out to her, or someone may still let her know, but she has a point. There are so many conflicting claims out there that one needs to be cautious. Perhaps someone could offer her a website other than the facebk one so there is at least one alternative, or she can phone someone she trusts and have them broadcast any news out if they block her.


46 posted on 04/20/2014 7:48:46 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: dforest
Which should be expunged? The regulations or the feds?

Both, I would think. If you expunge the 'regulations' then you wouldn't need the people on the payroll to 'enforce' them, would you?

the infowarrior

47 posted on 04/21/2014 1:14:09 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: infowarrior

I was kind of joking;)


48 posted on 04/21/2014 2:36:57 AM PDT by dforest
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