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How (Not) to Date a Fossil (article)
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 4-21-2014 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 04/21/2014 8:26:43 AM PDT by fishtank

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To: fishtank

1) Assert that the Bible says the entire universe is only 6018 years old (It doesn’t, Archbishop Ussher said it does, but it doesn’t)
2) Ignore all evidence, whether it be the shear volume of rock above it, the clearly defined annual layers, the actual counts of tree rings, the matching strata, the ratios of radioactive elements to their daughter products, unless of course there is so little carbon 14 left that the technique can’t be used to date the sample, then insist that too old to date means the technique can’t be used on younger samples, and means that older samples are younger!
3) Assign a date that is less than 6018 years old.
4) Congratulate yourself on this stunning blow for God.
5) Gather a bunch of like minded individuals and tell each other how wise you all are.
6) Tell everybody else they’re going straight to Hell.


21 posted on 04/21/2014 9:21:36 AM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: fishtank

The only accurate way to date anything on the Earth is to count all the begets in the Bible,
every good creationist knows that,
why do atheistic science classes waste kids time teaching them about atom’s and molecules and the speed of light???

Those fanged ideas come from straight the devil...

All they need to know is the begets.


22 posted on 04/21/2014 9:22:35 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: TexasGator

My mistake, its a creationist poster here.


23 posted on 04/21/2014 9:31:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: null and void; fishtank
RE :”1) Assert that the Bible says the entire universe is only 6018 years old (It doesn’t, Archbishop Ussher said it does, but it doesn’t)
2) Ignore all evidence, whether it be the shear volume of rock above it, the clearly defined annual layers, the actual counts of tree rings, the matching strata, the ratios of radioactive elements to their daughter products, unless of course there is so little carbon 14 left that the technique can’t be used to date the sample, then insist that too old to date means the technique can’t be used on younger samples, and means that older samples are younger!
3) Assign a date that is less than 6018 years old.
4) Congratulate yourself on this stunning blow for God.
5) Gather a bunch of like minded individuals and tell each other how wise you all are.
6) Tell everybody else they’re going straight to Hell.”

Add up the begets then assign a time period for each beget that adds up to the desired earth age.

All our kids need to know is rithmatic just like the Lil Rascals learned in theire schoolhouse by Mrs Craptree, not the devils lessons in modern science.

24 posted on 04/21/2014 9:36:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: fishtank

The Daohugou fossil fields present complex dating problems due to the faulting and folding of the rocks containing the fossils. This results in some cases in older fossils being “ on top” of younger fossils. However, radiometric dating is being used to sort this puzzle out. The time ranges are from 120 mya to 170 mya. However, the dating problems are found in the structural geology of the formation along with sampling protocol.

It is obvious that some species are longer lived than others which may present problems in dating. Trilobites were a extremely successful creature but all disappeared with the Permian Extinction. Thus, if you have rock with trilobite fossils, you can be fairly certain the rocks are 250+ mya. The potential exception comes when those fossils become incased in younger rock by erosion, faulting or volcanic means. That is one of many reasons radiometric dating in combination with good geologic examination of the formation being sampled is important.

Straw men again dominate the creationist argument. Science isn’t easy and false conclusions are frequent which is why peer review and reexamination with newer tools is important. In this case though the science has been refined and paradoxes resolved. Science doesn’t have written instructions guiding and determining its conclusions.


25 posted on 04/21/2014 9:43:42 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Fuzz

Wow! I had no idea scientists were there 65 million years ago and witnessed the t-rex’s death. Impressive!

They were obviously “begging the question.” The 65 million years is religious dogma, unshakable faith, so anything that comes along which doesn’t make logical sense must be somehow incorporated into that faith. Rather than question the 65 million years that the gelatinous heme must have survived, which would have been logical, they instead illogically declare that it could survive 65 million years. Tremendous faith!

The existence of this heme appears to be “contradictory evidence” on its face, that calls into question the 65 million year time line.


26 posted on 04/21/2014 9:44:53 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: fishtank
How (Not) to Date a Fossil

Simple. Just stay off of OurTime.com


27 posted on 04/21/2014 9:50:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: fishtank
Hi.

Slick wants to know if a fossil is anything like a mummy.

Beat me to it.

See, I did read the thread for once...

5.56mm

28 posted on 04/21/2014 9:53:02 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: afsnco

The age of things is not determined that way as it is not a known, predictable variable.


29 posted on 04/21/2014 9:53:37 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

“Why whattaya know! Dead men DO bleed”

(What a patient who was convinced he was dead said when the doctor pricked his finger.)


30 posted on 04/21/2014 9:57:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: afsnco
I had no idea scientists were there 65 million years ago and witnessed the t-rex’s death.

Heck, I didn't even know that all those people who say OJ Simpson is guilty were actually there at the crime scene. I guess you learn something new every day.

31 posted on 04/21/2014 10:16:43 AM PDT by Flame Retardant
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To: null and void

You missed one. Send checks payable to list maker needs inserted somewhere.


32 posted on 04/21/2014 10:27:30 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: null and void

Caricature

33 posted on 04/21/2014 10:28:14 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Timbers. Motes.


34 posted on 04/21/2014 10:36:33 AM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: fishtank

bump


35 posted on 04/21/2014 10:41:06 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: MrB

““Why whattaya know! Dead men DO bleed”

(What a patient who was convinced he was dead said when the doctor pricked his finger.)”

I have no idea what you are attempting to convey with this cryptic message. This a coded spy message? “Ducks fly at midnight.”


36 posted on 04/21/2014 10:59:10 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: fishtank

You can start by refusing to take their calls...


37 posted on 04/21/2014 11:07:48 AM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

You know, some of us have just finished lunch...


38 posted on 04/21/2014 11:08:24 AM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: al_c

As far as the corporate accountant knows, that girl is Jane Smith, his long lost ‘Niece’, and he’s helping her with Miscellaneous Expenses and Various and Sundry Services Rendered. Jane never itemizes her Invoices, (too boring), she just shows the total amounts spent (so far). It’s what we used to call A Gentleman’s Agreement.


39 posted on 04/21/2014 11:12:47 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: sickoflibs
The only accurate way to date anything on the Earth is to count all the begets in the Bible,

Even that accuracy is largely illusory. All those begets add up very differently in the Septuagint, the Peshitta, and the Masoretic texts.

40 posted on 04/21/2014 11:30:55 AM PDT by Claud
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