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To: Tallguy
I will give her credit for 1 thing. She is pointing out that the male Marines who failed to pass the course have the possibility to re-apply to repeat the course. Women didn’t have that option.

Not all of the males got a second try. The trainers and evaluators had to ask the question with all "can this person pass if given a re eval?" The pressure was on from above so the trainers had to cover themselves to ten decimal places when failing a female. Unless they were idiots they knew that they would probably have to justify their final decisions well above usual channels.

From my experience in the Air Force and comparing notes after that most of us saw a 80 to 90% failure rate for females in positions that required day to day heavy lifting.

85 posted on 04/21/2014 1:17:24 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

No argument on anything you said. Usually a re-cycle is due to an injury or something that is correctable. If there are other factors — mental, emotional or a major physical limitation — you wouldn’t expect the training cadre to recommend a do-over.

And yeah, nobody is allowing the military to consider the economic side of the argument: ie. the relative washout rates. Do I want to train 100 female officers to find 2 or 3 who actually can do the job? IOW’s a 97% failure rate in training is a huge waste of resources.

In the real world, the actual failure rate won’t be that bad because the vast majority of female officers won’t select that kind of training if there is a real possibility that they won’t succeed. But the failure rate will still be ridiculously high unless the re-jigger the standards.


90 posted on 04/21/2014 1:29:35 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Not all of the males got a second try.


I think I read that if you did try a 2nd time and failed, it was almost a career ender. It looked to me liked the Marines were trying to protect her from herself.


115 posted on 04/21/2014 2:50:17 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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