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[The other Nevada Senator] Heller sees Bundy, allies as ‘patriots’
MSNBC ^ | April 21, 2014 | By Steve Benen

Posted on 04/21/2014 2:51:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Last Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) responded to the standoff at Cliven Bundy’s Nevada ranch in very forceful terms. “Those people who hold themselves out to be patriots are not,” Reid said. “They’re nothing more than domestic terrorists,”

A day later, Reid appeared alongside his fellow Nevada senator, Republican Dean Heller, for a joint appearance on Las Vegas’ NBC affiliate. They apparently don’t see eye to eye. “What Sen. Reid may call domestic terrorists, I call patriots,” GOP Sen. Dean Heller said during the rare joint appearance on KSNV-TV. “We have a very different view on this.” […]

“It’s a pretty broad brush,” Heller said Reid is using in making the “domestic terrorist” charge. “When you have boy scouts there, you have veterans at the event, you have grandparents at the event.” I think it’s probably safe to say Reid, when raising the specter of domestic terrorism, was referring to well-armed militia activists who risked creating a violent incident at Bundy’s ranch, not boy scouts.

Heller added, “I take more issues with BLM coming in with a paramilitary army of people, individuals with snipers, and I’m talking to people and groups that were there at the event, and to have your own government with sniper lenses on you, it made a lot of people very uncomfortable.”

~~~snip~~~

When Bundy and his allies temporarily prevailed due to the threat of violence, Heller says he saw “patriots.” Perhaps the senator could clarify how he defines the word – and who else he believes should be able to ignore the law so long as they’re surrounded by well-armed friends.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; blm; bundy; bundyranch; heller; militia; nevada; patriots; reid; rkba

1 posted on 04/21/2014 2:51:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
John Kerry called Viet Nam veterans baby killers and war criminals and later called SE Asia veterans terrorists. This is their brand of propaganda.
2 posted on 04/21/2014 2:55:47 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Harry Reid : Domestic Traitor.


3 posted on 04/21/2014 2:56:30 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Jim Robinson

If the bullets start flying, will Sen Heller be willing to be present on the Bundy ranch to represent the little guy?


4 posted on 04/21/2014 3:00:48 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Jim Robinson

Can Reid be recalled and impeached within the State of Nevada?


5 posted on 04/21/2014 3:07:41 PM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Jim Robinson

Have not heard Heller’s rebuke of Reid’s statement on any news network yet!


6 posted on 04/21/2014 3:08:44 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Jim Robinson

Heller is calling for Senate hearings. Reid is not.
Could it be Reid has something to hide. Could it be a senate hearing
could uncover massive corruption by Reid?

Me thinks so.


7 posted on 04/21/2014 3:09:31 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Be Careful
Senators and congressmen cannot be recalled or impeached. This has been litigated in both federal court (Idaho, 1967) and state court (New Jersey, 2013).

You'll have to wait until he comes up for re-election unless the Grim Reaper collects him first.

8 posted on 04/21/2014 3:10:22 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: lurk

Hey, he has important business in D.C. to attend to.


9 posted on 04/21/2014 3:13:52 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Jim Robinson

Perhaps Reid can be recalled within the State of Nevada

Per brief research: The 18 states allowing for recall are as follows: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington and Wisconsin.

Does anyone have more detail?


10 posted on 04/21/2014 3:15:41 PM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful
As I said earlier, senators and congressmen cannot be removed in that manner.

The old states had provisions in their state constitutions where the state legislature could impeach a US senator and remove him. States that came in during the Progressive Era had recall provisions. However, there have never been impeachments nor recalls of US senators because the courts have ruled that Article VI of the US Constitution, aka the Supremacy Clause, does not permit such removal. The US Constitution sets the rules for eligibility and election of senators and congressmen, and the states may not add their own bells and whistles.

People tried to launch a recall against Sen. Menendez in New Jersey, and the state court ordered it shut down, even though the New Jersey Constitution has a recall provision. The court ruled that existing precedent, such as the Frank Church litigation in Idaho in 1967, held that senators could neither be recalled nor impeached by their state legislatures. This is a Supremacy Clause issue.

11 posted on 04/21/2014 3:22:24 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Jim Robinson
well-armed militia activists

The talking heads are so upset that they weren't armed with pea shooters, and bumping into each other like the Keystone Cops.

I'm not sure what a militia activist is.
12 posted on 04/21/2014 3:38:44 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: mountainlion
This is their brand of propaganda.

This should cover current events:


13 posted on 04/21/2014 3:47:04 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: Jim Robinson
This event is definitely accelerating the polarization that existed already in the American culture, between the collectivists and those who resist.

My own cousin was gibbering on Facebook about Bundy, about how it was right for the government to come after him with their guns. I took that to mean that this event has struck a nerve with the progressives. They don't like it when armed people fight back against the government, even if a shot is never even fired.

14 posted on 04/21/2014 3:54:43 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Be Careful

There is no provision at all in the Constitution for anyone elected to a national office to be recalled. There should be.

There is provision for impeachment.


15 posted on 04/21/2014 4:31:35 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Bundy was supposed to take his whoopin. :-)


16 posted on 04/21/2014 4:39:53 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Jim Robinson

F’K MSNBC and all of their knee pad wearing, boot licking self serving a$$holes!


17 posted on 04/21/2014 5:40:44 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: mongo141

Id10T commenter can’t do math either, “why wouldn’t he just pay the dollar eighty per head he owes?” Well now, that would be $32,400 for 20 years instead of 1.1 million the BlM say he owes.
Why indeed would he not pay the buck eighty, I bet he would.
He probably tried.


18 posted on 04/22/2014 7:10:00 AM PDT by Duke_Digger
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