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Arizona Official: Cliven Bundy's Acts Are Legal
NewsMax ^ | April 21, 2014 | Joe Battaglia

Posted on 04/21/2014 6:36:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Nevada cattle rancher at the center of a land dispute with the federal government should not have to surrender his property, an Arizona official says, because he has been acting within the boundaries of the law.

Barry Weller, vice chairman of the Apache County Board of Supervisors, told J.D. Hayworth and John Bachman on "America's Forum" Monday on Newsmax TV that he thinks Cliven Bundy was right in standing up to the Bureau of Land Management, which sought to seize his ranch.

Bundy says his family has homesteaded since 1877 on the land, which the federal government says belongs to the United States. As part of a conservation effort to protect the endangered desert tortoise, the Bureau of Land Management banned cattle grazing on the land in 1989. Bundy continued to graze his cattle and refused to pay fines levied against him, calling the federal policy a land grab.

The case is similar to another in Nevada, in which Wayne Hage won a protracted battle with the federal government by successfully arguing that he had the right to graze his cows within two miles of water sources he developed.

"The Bundys and the Hages are standing on what's called their water rights and their grazing rights," which, Weller said, "were pre-existing in territorial times, long before the government took over and these states became states and these water rights are mentioned, and any federal law or policy act that comes thereafter is always stated, 'subject to pre-existing rights.'

"So, when people say they're not legally doing what they're doing, they are. They are doing what they're supposed to be doing: standing for their rights," Weller said.....

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Arizona; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: arizona; banglist; blm; bundy; bundyranch; bunkerville; dingyharry; federalland; nevada; treeofliberty; tyranny

1 posted on 04/21/2014 6:36:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reid is a terrorist!!


2 posted on 04/21/2014 6:37:34 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is as many of us have suspected: this is it. This is the event that polarizes the states against the tyrannical federal government. It is rapidly changing the political landscape.

It remains to be seen whether they will use their collective will to force the Feds back into their Constitutional restraints. Or, whether this will spill out into open civil war.

3 posted on 04/21/2014 6:39:10 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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4 posted on 04/21/2014 6:42:54 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. Cattlegate..0'Caligula / 0'Reid? ;-)
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To: SADMILLIE
Reid is a terrorist!!

The son-of-a-bitch should be strung up from the nearest desert oak!

5 posted on 04/21/2014 6:48:29 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Water-rights is indeed a good point. This is often the point used in New Mexico land disputes.

Honestly thou nobody should claim that the bundy situation is really about bundy. It’s about the BLM’s unfair land hording and lording in the west

That land needs to be sold to the people who’s livelihood have depended upon it for generations.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 6:53:39 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: unixfox

* The EPA assigns one million acres to previous owners in Wyoming.

* The BLM Rustles cattle in Nevada.

* Now the USFS Rustles Cattle in New Mexico.

What will doormat Republican Speaker Boehner do now to punish these lawless Federal Bureaus?

BTW, have y’all noticed that Obama is very effectively using these lawless events by his Bureaus to distract from the NSA, Benghazi, IRS and Obamacare Scandals?

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Is the modern day equivalent of the KKK the Bureau of Feudal Land Management, (BFLM) ?

If so, then Feudal Lord Reid would then be “The Grand Dragon of the BFLM.”

Feudal Lord Reid’s Rustlers are hired guns, who are furious but not fast, which also applies to their multimillionaire Leader: Feudal Lord Reid.

With the past Democrat-based KKK, and now the present Democrat-controlled BFLM, ethics be damned, as abject fear is the main goal of both of these Medieval Outlaw Gangs, past and present.

“Ethics” will be justified later by Liberals who will write the ‘revised” PC History of these times, past and present; of powerful men with outlaw hatred toward free people in America, Black or White, poor or rich.

The Jackboot Heel of Democat Tyranny is now upon us, AGAIN !

FORWARD!


7 posted on 04/21/2014 6:55:17 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: DaxtonBrown; B4Ranch; WildHighlander57; LucyT

FYI


8 posted on 04/21/2014 7:14:08 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: SADMILLIE

> Reid is a terrorist!!
And so are the BLM, EPA, DOI, TSA, ATF, ...
Why do the post office and the tax collectors need SWAT teams?


9 posted on 04/21/2014 7:16:19 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Government by Gun Point.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Bundy says his family has homesteaded since 1877 on the land,... "The Bundys and the Hages are standing on what's called their water rights and their grazing rights," which, Weller said, "were pre-existing in territorial times, long before the government took over and these states became states and these water rights are mentioned, and any federal law or policy act that comes thereafter is always stated, 'subject to pre-existing rights.'

The only problem is that Nevada became a state in 1864, which means the Arizona official is wrong on at least some of the facts. The Federal government took over even earlier before Nevada became a state. Bundys came after the Feds and after Nevada's statehood.

10 posted on 04/21/2014 7:18:34 PM PDT by DannyTN
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So, all these Federales are conspiring to deny Bundy and others of their Civil Rights under the Color of Law.

That's a very serious Federal crime.

11 posted on 04/21/2014 8:25:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Actually, they are going to deny Bundy his life under color of the law. The only question is when.


12 posted on 04/21/2014 8:27:19 PM PDT by sport
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To: DannyTN
"The only problem is that Nevada became a state in 1864, which means the Arizona official is wrong on at least some of the facts. The Federal government took over even earlier before Nevada became a state. Bundys came after the Feds and after Nevada's statehood. "

Water Rights in the West are transferable by purchase and through deed.

Bundy better be busy tracing his deed to source.

13 posted on 04/21/2014 8:28:25 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope he has Prescriptive Rights to the land.


14 posted on 04/21/2014 8:45:37 PM PDT by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: backwoods-engineer
9 Western States Meet To Talk About Taking Over Federal Land
15 posted on 04/21/2014 8:47:56 PM PDT by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We should believe everything that comes from the

Bureau of
Lying
Marxists

Would Filthy Harry steer us wrong?


16 posted on 04/21/2014 9:08:47 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somebody please get this news to Bill Oh’Really at FOX before I destroy another TV watching him “bloviate”.


17 posted on 04/21/2014 11:13:26 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: All

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/


18 posted on 04/22/2014 12:16:33 AM PDT by LeeClementineKenny (www.OathKeepers.org)
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To: Mariner

That’s been done. There was a link earlier explaining a case won because of original paper work. Stating other families were getting theirs in order too


19 posted on 04/22/2014 4:28:09 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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