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Firefighters v arsonists: US confirms $5bn spent on 'Ukraine democracy'
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Posted on 04/23/2014 3:27:07 AM PDT by kronos77

People holding illegal arms and occupying government buildings are perfectly OK, as long as they are permitted to do so, believes Washington’s top diplomat in Europe. But doing exactly the same thing without permission is bad.

This piece of infallible logic came from the US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, as she refused to equate the situation in Ukrainian capital, Kiev, in February with the present one in eastern Ukraine. In both cases armed militias have seized buildings and refused to leave.

“You can’t compare the situation in Kiev, where now everything that is still being held by protesters is being held with licenses and with the agreement of the government of Ukraine, with the agreement of the Rada, or with regular leases from the owners of the buildings,” Nuland told CNN in an interview.

Of course, when those militias were taking over buildings and building barricades in Kiev and elsewhere in in Ukraine, they didn’t have any license. It was only after they toppled the Ukrainian government that the new authorities moved to legitimize those seizures. The same authorities whose legitimacy is now being questioned by the protesters in the country’s east.

There is another difference between the two armed movements, according to Nuland.

“You can’t compare it to what is happening in eastern Ukraine, where you have armed separatists wearing balaclavas, carrying very heavy munitions, holding government buildings refusing to allow monitors in refusing to allow journalists in,” she claimed.

As if balaclava-wearing radical protesters never pelted the police with firebombs and didn’t shoot at them with guns stolen from police stations in Ukraine. But isn’t this is how the people presumably now in charge came to power?

The Kiev militias are where they are because they could topple the new government just as they did with the previous one. They already besieged the parliament demanded the resignation of the interior minister for the killing one of their leaders, and it took a lot of convincing on the part of the MPs to make them leave.

Of course when the authorities can’t force somebody to follow the law, they can save face by altering that law. Unfortunately for the Ukrainian government, disarming those unruly militias is what they agreed to by signing a joint statement with Russia, the US and the EU in Geneva last week. Pretending that this document applies only to those opposing Kiev simply won’t work.

Naturally, Washington blames Russia for making things worse in Ukraine, and fails to see the impotence of the current government.

“We continue to be concerned that you cannot dress yourself like a firefighter and behave like an arsonist,” Nuland said.

One can wonder what she was dressing herself like as she was treating Maidan activists to cookies and discussing the composition of the government which now sits in Kiev with the US ambassador to Ukraine.

Or how the $5 billion, which the US poured into “building civil society” in Ukraine helped the country overcome its inherent divisions and build a stable nation that can change its government without any street violence.

Alexandre Antonov, RT


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: ibtz; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; war; washington

1 posted on 04/23/2014 3:27:07 AM PDT by kronos77
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To: kronos77
People holding illegal arms and occupying government buildings are perfectly OK, as long as they are permitted to do so, believes Washington’s top diplomat in Europe. But doing exactly the same thing without permission is bad.

Well Obama did recently claim that the Kosovo split from Serbia was due to a referendum vote.
2 posted on 04/23/2014 3:32:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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“5 billion dollars (borrowed from China)”

VP Biden took it in some steamer trunks. Slow Joe and his delegation, consisting of Eric Holder, Lois Lerner and other Democrats of impeccable character, all lectured the Ukes on the importance of honesty, fairness and square dealing before turning over the cash to local gangsters.


3 posted on 04/23/2014 3:57:01 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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The coup that occurred eliminated (with the possibility of assassination present) a democratically elected President of Ukraine.

Afraid of losing again, (the same folks of the 2004 revolution) initiated the coup....rather than let the election occur in a few months.

The people will be forced to vote for these coup folks...that's how it works with a coup.

4 posted on 04/23/2014 4:14:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The points are valid. The US likes democracy and the rule of law when they serve its geopolitical interests. It just does not of approve of Crimea and eastern Ukrainians exercising them because it would have to admit the Maidan regime in Kiev is illegitimate. Good luck with that happening. America and the West are running the show in Kiev. In all likelihood, Ukraine’s May 25 presidential elections will ultimately lack legitimacy but the US and its allies will recognize the farce because they have too much invested in the Maidan regime to concede defeat.


5 posted on 04/23/2014 4:37:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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