Posted on 04/23/2014 6:20:29 AM PDT by thackney
I have heard, though I haven’t actually tried it myself, that if you put a tablespoon or so of ATF in the gasoline that this will negate the effects of the ethanol. Also Marvel Mystery Oil is said to do the same thing..................
Just buy the cheap stuff and remove the ethanol if you are that worried about it, its not hard to do.... Just go google it.
This is impractical for filing up a 20 gallon fuel tank in a vehicle, but its more than practical enough for you to do for your yard equipment.
If it really is that much of an issue for you, just remove the ethanol from the gas before you put it in your engine... Or you could use the STAHBL products or the like as well, if you choose.
Personally, as I said, unless you are pro using your equipment for hours a day every day, most of this ethanol stuff is overrated fearmongering. If you own an engine built prior to the removal of leaded gasoline you may have legitimate concern about the higher burning temps on your engine etc, but anything newer than the mid 1970s is going to be able to handle the higher temps of ethanol blend.
As to the gaskets and what not, yes, ethanol and the water it attracts will cause swelling and failure of the parts over time, but they are cheap and easy to replace.
Most of the ethanol hype for the typical blend (not the e85 crap, but the typical E10) is not an issue for most things, and if it is, just remove the ethanol or use the products that are on the market with every fill up.
Of course don’t be overly surprised if you start having Knocking issues, as with no TEL and no Ethanol, you have removed the anti-knock agent and now have just pure gasoline so knocking can indeed be the result.
go google “remove ethanol from gasoline” its pretty damned easy to do... Or just buy and use the stabilizing products that take care of it.
YOu don’t need to buy special gas if you don’t want to.
By the time went through all that trouble you could have run down to the local marina and bought “white gas” faster and cheaper.
There was a thread yesterday on this issue, and some one posted this link, which will tell you which stations sell Ethanol Free Gas.
In my town of approx 70 stations only one sells Ethanol Free Gas, it is more expensive. At the bottom of page there is a link for each state, Canada too.
E15 is deadly poison for 2-stroke engines. Damages the cylinders and pistons.
If you can find me an gas engine edger today that has a guide bar that keeps the blade from tearing up the concrete, I’d like to see it - they had a patent for it. There was only a couple of these brands made. One was Golden Boy and then Trim Rite who apparently bought them out.
I have one later model made in the 80s that has something similar, who licensed it, but they didn’t have a guide wheel on the blade housing.....you see some cheap electric ones that have a guide to a fashion, but they are woefully underpowered and painstaking.
I have never seen this configuration since then although the patents have run out and most anyone is free now to implement it. I have concluded they don’t want to because they like the increased blade sales.
Regardless, this edger can do my whole street curb, driveway and sidewalks in about 15 minutes or less depending on how fast I can push it. It is a sight to see. You can’t get that today. My neighbors get so pissed when I pull it out and are finished before they’ve done 20 feet. When I’m at my peak, even an illegal with a sideways trimmer can’t beat me.
Also, you also probably haven’t seen a Mantis tiller screaming at 10,000 RPM digging the heck out of a garden with surgical control. They just don’t make stuff like this any more, IMO.
My whole point in keeping and maintaining my fleet is performance over current seems-like performance. Look at the rear tires on a rider now days. They’re smaller diameter and less area. My rider’s traction in my hilly back yard coupled with the no frills controls and interlocks are important to me. I have a new rider for the front yard three years old that you’re coerced into stopping the damned thing to put it in reverse....(I disabled all that crap anyway, BTW). It also has a seat switch that is so sensitive that if you lift up for a fart, it shuts the whole thing down. It’s useless for inclined cutting IMO. That’s why it’s the front yard mower. [The old Craftsman is more forgiving and you don’t have to be exactly in the center of the seat to keep going - only on it.]
As for the gas, I use Sea Foam now....it works great and I haven’t had to rebuild anything for a couple of years now.
It’s not about antiques for nostalgia’s sake.
Thanks. I’ve seen that link before. Unfortunately, there isn’t ONE station that sells pure gas, anywhere near me (in TX) :(
As I said, not trying to be dismissive, but like it or not you are using 40-50 year old equipment, that comes with additional care and feeding. As I said if ethanol is that much of a worry to you, then by all means remove it from your gas before you put it in the tank, its not hard to do.
I am not going to argue that there is a lot of cheaply built things in the marketplace, there are. Mainly because folks aren’t willing to pay for quality.
You wish to have a discussion about how cheap most stuff is made these days, I can show you countless examples, but that’s not the point of the conversation.
Ethanol Unexpectedly™ Damages Engines.
Gosh! Who’d of thunk it?!
pure-gas.org
59 stations in Kentucky
Because ethanol has about 40% less energy than gasoline, ethanol gasoline blends result in reduced gas mileage. Check out the EPA’s own data about abysmal gas mileage in various vehicles using the 85% ethanol blend. It would seem to be contrary to Obama’s mandate for higher gas mileage standards with the EPA pushing for higher ethanol blends that significantly reduce mileage.
Try Pri-G. It will help resolve the negative effects of ethanol in fuel. Not perfectly or completely but it is good.
Thanks....probably like Sea Foam which I use now....it works pretty good I think. Just start up my 23 YO rider day before yesterday and it cranked right up and ran great on a full tank I’d left in it last summer...
If it damages engines, then they have succeeded. I think this is what their plan was from the start.
Thanx for the ping, PoloSec.
bkmk thanks
Notice that everything the government does is designed to financially break the middle class. That appears to me to be the result of all their actions.
You think mowers are bad, try a boat. There’s no way to empty the tank, and ethanol based gas lasts a few months at best. It also absorbs water like a sponge. So you have to keep the tank full to keep water out, but who can burn 125 gallons of fuel in two months? I can’t.
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