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In Richest US Community, 31 Percent Work for Government
Townhall ^ | 04/23/2014 | Terry Jeffrey

Posted on 04/23/2014 8:09:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Those who live in this nation's richest county and those who live its poorest have an important thing in common: a disproportionate dependence on government.

In the United States as a whole, according to Census Bureau estimates for the five-year period from 2008 through 2012, 14.9 percent of the people who had civilian jobs worked for government. Another 78.7 worked for private employers and 6.3 percent worked for themselves in their own unincorporated businesses.

In America's richest county, this pattern did not hold. Nor did it in the poorest.

At the end of last year, the Census Bureau released two lists: The 30 counties with the highest median household incomes in 2012 and the 30 with the lowest.

The independent City of Falls Church, Va., -- which the Census Bureau treats as a county -- was the nation's wealthiest. Its median household income was $121,250. Wilcox County, Ala., was the poorest. Its median household income was $22,126.

Both Falls Church and Wilcox County were small communities. Falls Church had 9,545 civilian residents 16 or older; Wilcox County had 9,152.

In both places, government employed people out of proportion to the national rate of 14.9 percent. In Falls Church, a suburb less than 10 miles south of Washington, D.C., 31.3 percent of the people with jobs worked for government. In Wilcox County, it was 25.4 percent.

Nationally, according to the Census Bureau, 4.9 percent of the people with jobs were employed in the "public administration" industry. In Wilcox County it was 10.8 percent (more than twice the national rate); and, in Falls Church, it was 20.3 percent (more than four times the national rate).

But Falls Church and Wilcox County also have important differences.

In the United States, the Census Bureau estimated, 64.2 percent of the civilians 16 or older in 2008-2012 were in the labor force, meaning they either had a job or were actively seeking one. In Falls Church, it was 75.3 percent. In Wilcox County it was only 38.0 percent.

The Census Bureau estimated that 11.4 percent of Americans 16 or older got food stamps in 2008-2012. In Falls Church, it was 2.2 percent, but in Wilcox County it was 28.9 percent.

Falls Church and Wilcox County also differed in the educational attainment of their citizens. In Wilcox County, 28.8 percent of those 25 or older had not graduated from high school. In Falls Church, it was 3.7 percent. In Falls Church, 72.8 percent had a bachelor's degree or higher. In Wilcox County, it was 11.1 percent.

The Census Bureau estimated that 11.4 percent of Americans 16 or older got food stamps in 2008-2012. In Falls Church, it was 2.2 percent, but in Wilcox County it was 28.9 percent.

Falls Church and Wilcox County also differed in the educational attainment of their citizens. In Wilcox County, 28.8 percent of those 25 or older had not graduated from high school. In Falls Church, it was 3.7 percent. In Falls Church, 72.8 percent had a bachelor's degree or higher. In Wilcox County, it was 11.1 percent.

In Falls Church, 53.1 percent of households were married-couple families, and 7.8 percent were families headed by a woman with no husband present. In Wilcox County, 34.7 percent of the households were married-couple families and 30.5 percent were headed by a woman with no husband present.

Liberals have argued for years that the answer to poverty in the United States is more government investment in education and social welfare programs. Has it worked? The answer is yes for the people in the City of Falls Church (near the border of which this writer lives). They have done very well administering and contracting with an expanding government, or doing business with those who do. But the answer is no for Wilcox County.

What is the answer? Maybe it is time for the government to start getting out of the education business and the dependency business.

Give every child in Wilcox County -- and in every other American jurisdiction -- a voucher worth as much as it costs to send a child to public school. Let parents, if they wish, send their children to private and religious schools, where they reinforce, rather than seek to replace, the family.

Then start phasing out the federal welfare state.

Eventually, that might mean less wealth and power for government employees in places like Falls Church, Va., but it will make life richer and better not only for Americans in Wilcox County, but for future generations in every community in this country.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: government; rich; wealth

1 posted on 04/23/2014 8:09:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee, such “income inequality”

I guess the Dems should cut the bloated bureaucrazies and fire a bunch of Falls Churchers


2 posted on 04/23/2014 8:14:23 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey 2008, we told you so)
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To: SeekAndFind

These “ruling class” communities also have substantial numbers of government contractors in addition to their actual government employees. All feed from the public trough that we struggle to keep filled.


3 posted on 04/23/2014 8:14:40 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind

In both places, government employed people out of proportion to the national rate of 14.9 percent. In Falls Church, a suburb less than 10 miles south of Washington, D.C., 31.3 percent of the people with jobs worked for government. In Wilcox County, it was 25.4 percent.

Well Falls Church is obviously doing other things to attract companies to their county. They still have another 69 percent that is private sector. And if 31 percent is the highest in the nation then the private sector is winning everywhere. Why not do a story on, “Private Sector has more money than government agencies”....because that would be the truth and nobody wants to hear that.


4 posted on 04/23/2014 8:17:55 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

In Falls Church, 72.8 percent had a bachelor’s degree or higher.

Oh and that has nothing to do with the high per capita salaries I bet....eyes roll. Places like Arnold Maryland where I live also have a high percentage of college grads and have an average salary of 110,000 dollars. Not the fault of those who are educated want to have a great job. Everyone has the same opportunities in life....some take them and others let them pass them by. Sorry for those who were unable to lift themselves up like those in Falls Church County in Virginia.


5 posted on 04/23/2014 8:20:55 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Chinese dynasties of old all collapsed because of the overloading of government workers who sapped the strength of the nation.


6 posted on 04/23/2014 8:24:55 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: napscoordinator

Why not do a story on, “Private Sector has more money than government agencies”....because that would be the truth and nobody wants to hear that.

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Well, my goodness. We really need to do something about that. We must quickly, and vastly, increase the compensation given to government employees.

But seriously, you do realize that MANY of the “private sector” employers in these government ruling class enclaves are actually living VERY WELL off of government contracts? And the massive wealth they are nosily wolfing down from the trough is government money extracted from taxpayers.


7 posted on 04/23/2014 8:28:03 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: napscoordinator
The "Private sector" in Falls Church is likely full of Gov't contractors.

Not officially Gov't employees but receiving oodles of taxpayer money.

8 posted on 04/23/2014 11:31:56 AM PDT by what's up (su)
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To: what's up

likely????? Well you could be right or you could be wrong. I suspect and will say “likely” to that it is technology and pharmaceuticals in the area too.


9 posted on 04/23/2014 11:34:27 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: what's up

Also keep in mind that the Gvt employees living in Falls Church are going to be GS14s, GS15s and SESers who are also getting the inflated locality pay adjustment for the DC area.


10 posted on 04/23/2014 11:38:46 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah...those ever-suffering “public servants”.


11 posted on 04/23/2014 3:38:25 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SeekAndFind
...31 Percent Work for Government

Whenever you see 30 something percent of voters, supporting some RAT insanity....there ya go.

12 posted on 04/23/2014 3:42:41 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: napscoordinator; SeekAndFind
In Falls Church, 72.8 percent had a bachelor’s degree or higher. Oh and that has nothing to do with the high per capita salaries I bet

Are you implying to be a good government tax paid bureaucrat, and produce NOTHING, one must be college educated?

13 posted on 04/23/2014 3:45:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

Damm, I barely make more than their average income. THANKFULLY, life is MUCH CHEAPER in Texas.


14 posted on 04/23/2014 4:23:40 PM PDT by BobL
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To: dragnet2

I am implying that if you want to make a decent living....chose wisely. If you don’t...don’t complain about others. It is so liberal to complain and be jealous of those that make good choices. Sorry that others don’t but I am out of tissues.


15 posted on 04/23/2014 5:06:22 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When you visit the DC beltway, it looks nothing like flyover country.

The first thing you notice is NOT seeing “available” or “for lease” signs on 50% of the commercial buildings.

I’ve counseled several recent grads to head down that way and they got good jobs and prospered. But it’s a prosperity based on fake govt money and onerous taxation.


16 posted on 04/23/2014 5:11:00 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

Actually, the private commercial properties do have a good deal of vacant office space. In some quarters it’s like a Potemkin Village.


17 posted on 04/23/2014 5:58:33 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: napscoordinator
In Falls Church, 72.8 percent had a bachelor’s degree or higher. Oh and that has nothing to do with the high per capita salaries I bet

Are you implying to be a good government tax paid bureaucrat, and produce NOTHING, one must be college educated?

I am implying that if you want to make a decent living....chose wisely.

Oh, I assumed you were actually referring to the article, where a large portion of the population they referred to are well off and on the government payroll. Got it.

18 posted on 04/23/2014 7:37:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Jealous much? Seriously you are more liberal everyday. Complaining about successful communities. Sad how you have changed.


19 posted on 04/24/2014 7:07:19 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: what's up
The "Private sector" in Falls Church is likely full of Gov't contractors. Not officially Gov't employees but receiving oodles of taxpayer money.

I agree. And I'd say there are lots of lawyers and lobbyists, too. The private sector isn't winning.

20 posted on 04/24/2014 7:15:08 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: napscoordinator
Jealous much? Seriously you are more liberal everyday. Complaining about successful communities. Sad how you have changed.

So if people like me mention government now employs more unionized employees than the private sector, this is being jealous and liberal?

Mentioning government and their employee's wages, benefits and lottery style tax paid retirements are choking off the private sector, is a jealous and liberal comment?

??

21 posted on 04/24/2014 10:01:37 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

So if people like me mention government now employs more unionized employees than the private sector, this is being jealous and liberal?

First of all you never mentioned anything like that. Second of all I know of nobody in my government bean counter job at the Naval Academy who belongs to a union. So you are either a huge liar or a liberal.


22 posted on 04/24/2014 10:24:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: napscoordinator
First of all you never mentioned anything like that.

LOL, bet I've posted that 200x right here on this site...

Mentioning government and their employee's wages, benefits and lottery style tax paid retirements are choking off the private sector, is a jealous and liberal comment?

Are these jealous and liberal comments?

Why are you evading questions?

23 posted on 04/24/2014 10:28:10 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The huge lie is that you mentioned the government unions....which in your preceding comments, you didn’t. I am sorry that you chose your failed attempt at life and it didn’t work out for you. You could have signed up for the military when you were 18, spend 24 years, retire and then go back to your favorite duty station which for me was the Naval Academy....go through 4 interviews and finally after 6 months get hired. It is doable but you chose other life choices that you find were not worthy or failed at or whatever. Everyone has the same choices in life and if you did not chose my route. What can I tell you? Try again next time. Hopefully you will succeed in your next life.


24 posted on 04/24/2014 10:33:58 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: napscoordinator

Mentioning government and their employee’s wages, benefits and lottery style tax paid retirements are choking off the private sector, is a jealous and liberal comment?

Are these jealous and liberal comments?

Why are you evading questions?


25 posted on 04/24/2014 10:37:20 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Are these jealous and liberal comments?

Yep. You wish you would have made better choices in life so you decide what is the best job for people. Very communist at best.


26 posted on 04/24/2014 11:48:15 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: napscoordinator
Mentioning government and their employee’s wages, benefits and lottery style tax paid retirements are choking off the private sector...Is this a jealous and liberal comment?

Yep.

Thanks for being honest.

BTW, nice attempt in bringing up the military. From a veteran's standpoint, I've seen this type of distraction and deceit in regards to massive corrupt government before.

27 posted on 04/24/2014 12:13:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

BTW, nice attempt in bringing up the military. From a veteran’s standpoint, I’ve seen this type of distraction and deceit in regards to massive corrupt government before.

What are you saying? That I didn’t serve 24 years in the military? That I should hide that fact. You bashing me for being a government employee for 2 years does not take away from my military service. I am not even sure you are a nice person. You seem very sad in fact. Always worrying about someone else’s life. I notice you haven’t given a fact on your life. Is it that sorry?


28 posted on 04/24/2014 12:16:54 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: napscoordinator

This has little to do with the military.

Of course you know that.


29 posted on 04/24/2014 12:20:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

No it doesn’t. Not one bit. I am 100 percent proud to be part of the military. I am 100 percent proud to be part of the United States Naval Academy. I am 100 percent proud of being a Catholic. I am 100 percent proud of living in Arnold, Maryland. I am 100 percent proud of being from Pennsylvania. I am 100 percent proud of visiting 47 countries in the World. I am 100 percent proud of being a government employee.


30 posted on 04/24/2014 12:22:45 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: napscoordinator

Oh gezzz...

This is like having a discussion with a telephone pole...

Cheers...


31 posted on 04/24/2014 12:26:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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