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To: nickcarraway
I saw it after the initial "pro-gay" meme popped up, so it did color my viewing. And yes, I did see a pro-gay message in the film, because, honestly, I was looking for it. I don't think for a second that's what the film is about, but here's how to make the "facts" fit the meme.

So the queen-to-be has a curse/gift that is horrifying/embarrassing for her family, and is forced to hide that "gift" until she is a young adult and is "outed" at a party. Society rejects her, until she has the strength to accept who she is and not accept society's norms placed upon her (all set to tremendous music). Once she lets it go, we see that her "gift/curse" is capable of producing wondrous, awe inspiring beauty, and eventually, through the accepting love of her family, society, too realizes that her "special way" is a gift that should be embraced and enjoyed, and not feared.

There, that's my best shot. Again, I don't agree. I think you have to be looking for that, but that's how the story could be twisted into the "pro-gay" meme.

45 posted on 04/23/2014 10:50:24 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: cincinnati65

Yep. My wife and I debated on whether this was something to let the kids watch.

There are some things about it that are just plain asinine. Like in “Let it Go”...that bit about “no wrong or right”.

But other things are more ambiguous. Elsa complains about being tired of being “a good girl”. Could that be read in a Sodomite context? Sure. It could also be read in a morally wholesome context...like I want to be more religious, devote myself to God, join a convent something like that, and everyone wants me to be “a good girl” and adhere to society’s norms, etc.

In the end we let them watch it. There are some good themes there of redemption and love being defined not as a feeling but as self-sacrifice for the good of another (wow...”no greater love hath man than this”, right?). And as the father of girls I definitely appreciate the message about not being deceived in marriage proposals by slick talking/looking guys. I don’t think the problems in the film are so grave that they will be hard to correct with good upbringing. But we will see.

The Sodomists make everything about them. EVERYTHING. We see life as through a veil, they see it as in a mirror.


67 posted on 04/23/2014 1:59:22 PM PDT by Claud
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To: cincinnati65

Yep. My wife and I debated on whether this was something to let the kids watch.

There are some things about it that are just plain asinine. Like in “Let it Go”...that bit about “no wrong or right”.

But other things are more ambiguous. Elsa complains about being tired of being “a good girl”. Could that be read in a Sodomite context? Sure. It could also be read in a morally wholesome context...like I want to be more religious, devote myself to God, join a convent something like that, and everyone wants me to be “a good girl” and adhere to society’s norms, etc.

In the end we let them watch it. There are some good themes there of redemption and love being defined not as a feeling but as self-sacrifice for the good of another (wow...”no greater love hath man than this”, right?). And as the father of girls I definitely appreciate the message about not being deceived in marriage proposals by slick talking/looking guys. I don’t think the problems in the film are so grave that they will be hard to correct with good upbringing. But we will see.

The Sodomists make everything about them. EVERYTHING. We see life as through a veil, they see it as in a mirror.


68 posted on 04/23/2014 1:59:23 PM PDT by Claud
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