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Black Congressional Candidate Talks with Bundy About Racial Remarks
Las Vegas Review-Journal | Thursday, April 24, 2014 | Laura Myers

Posted on 04/25/2014 6:25:31 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: smokingfrog
Four points:
1. Innis seems like a clown headline seeker (enough about him)

2. Bundy’s comments about African-Americans appear on the surface, a racist rant. He is inarticulate, to say the least. However, a more thoughtful review of his comments reveal that he is mostly criticizing the government's treatment of post-slavery “negroes”. He seems to be saying that the government which extended subsidies to these families didn't adequately provide vocational development opportunities. Once generations were mis-developed into less than productive citizens, all that was offered was abortion clinics and incarceration. In truth, often for crimes that whites get noticeably less jail time for. He did not consider that many white Americans were given a leg up from poverty and ignorance through training opportunities in the private sector, which discriminated again Blacks. Also of note is that there has always been more Whites on government subsidy/welfare/food stamps/etc. than any other minority to date combined.

The offenses of his comments are in the historical horrors of life as human property in this country. The lynchings, rapes and dismemberment that could all be justified as a deterrent to the slave's desire and quest for freedom and human dignity. It doesn't get any more anti-American or un-Godly.

3. While I agree that there needs to be a limit to government interference into state affairs, it is rediculous to justify not recognizing our federal government all together. I don't have to like Obama to respect the office of the President of the United States of America. He is the commander-in-chief of our armed services (of which I and 3 of my sons are veterans/members). The “United” in US means something to most of us, I don't care what color he is. Washington is not doing their job, but there is a job for them to do. We need to get rid of them and get people in who want to work. Another story.

4. I wander if, based upon Mr Bundy’s argument, we could just show up on that patch of “free” land with a barbeque and grill up a couple of those cows without paying him for the beef. If it's public land that he's grazing on, he's fattening his cattle on public grass. We the people have a right to partake in the yield. Is he giving his beef back to the public or selling it for profit? If selling it, then his whole argument falls apart. He's using public resources that others have paid for (through taxes and the labor of others to maintain the property). Now, if he's doing more for that land than giving it a haircut to fatten his herds and leaving a load of fertilizer (courtesy of the cows), than that may make a difference.

61 posted on 04/25/2014 9:46:04 AM PDT by SealTeam0 (A Few Thoughts about the Bundy situation)
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To: Verginius Rufus

...As Gawd is mah witness...


62 posted on 04/25/2014 9:50:31 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: SealTeam0

On “Fox and Friends” this morning they were discussing cases in Texas where the federal government is seizing private property, claiming it belongs to the federal government, despite the owners having deeds and having paid taxes...and if they get away with it they don’t have to pay the owners a penny in compensation, unlike with eminent domain.


63 posted on 04/25/2014 10:05:21 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SealTeam0
I believe Bundy’s argument is that BLM wants him to pay cattle grazing fees, but they are doing a poor job of managing public lands and he feels he has some preeminent rights to use the land, since his family was there before it came under the control of the federal government.
64 posted on 04/25/2014 10:17:36 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: FourtySeven; kabar; SZonian

So, what then? That’s your way of apologizing, FourtySeven?
Not impressed, but I appreciate the bump.

Nor am I surprised that Bundy would have a productive and teachable moment care of ‘a negro’ (as he puts it, not I).

I still don’t know the content of his response to his video comments, but I fully expect the content of this OP link to be kept out of MSM land...


65 posted on 04/25/2014 11:38:44 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Steely Tom
when I read the words of Booker T. Washington - I am left shaking my head in wonder and saying to myself “what a remarkable mind.”

Booker T. is very current and topical; his writing is as fresh, incisive, and relevant today as it was 100 years ago when he wrote it.

66 posted on 04/25/2014 11:44:34 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: DoodleDawg
I don’t remember Booker T. Washington saying blacks had been better off in slavery.

He may have had he grown up in LBJ's "Great Society".......

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

67 posted on 04/25/2014 11:57:43 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: dfwgator

You know what I think. ;)


68 posted on 04/25/2014 1:01:26 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: logi_cal869

What exactly do you think you are owed an apology for? For me saying anyone who doesn’t see that what Mr. Bundy said was racist, is probably a racist themselves?

I’ll never apologize for saying that. And guess what, Mr. logi_cal, Niger Innis also thinks what he said was racist. You seem to have missed that point.

Are you going to call him a “false conservative” too? Give up.

Or better yet, go ahead, have the precious “last word”; we both know you, and anyone else who wants to chime in at this point, desperately need it to feel like you’re significant.


69 posted on 04/25/2014 1:10:44 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; jsanders2001

As many have said, Niger Innis is one of the good guys. Not a racist, but a racial realist.


70 posted on 04/25/2014 1:11:28 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: SealTeam0

Howdy, newb troll !


71 posted on 04/25/2014 1:17:01 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: FourtySeven
Honestly, if anyone disagrees that what he was saying was racist well quite frankly you’re probably racist yourself. And go ahead and call me a race baiter if it makes you feel better about your defense of the indefensible.

Hard to peel back the fonts when they're black & white.

I'm not the desperate one trying to hide my biases; yours have come out in spades here...

You honestly believe a racist can have ONE(willing, mind you) phone conversation with the subject of his biases and come away admitting he was wrong and apologize for it?

Go ahead...keep digging. I'm not the only one seeing through the BS here.

What other name calling are you going to reduce to this weekend, taking a line out of the Alinsky playbook???

72 posted on 04/25/2014 4:04:36 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: jsanders2001
So if you think you “know” a politician and defend him without truly knowing his background and he lips up you’re just going to look silly later for defending him.

In this case you're the one who keeps looking silly and uninformed about Niger Innis! I've known him for over 10 years and he's anything but a common politician. In fact, if you had truly bothered to do any research, you'd find out this is his first foray into running for office. There goes your misconception that he's a "typical politician".

73 posted on 04/25/2014 9:13:48 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

> In this case you’re the one who keeps looking silly and uninformed about Niger Innis! I’ve known him for over 10 years and he’s anything but a common politician. In fact, if you had truly bothered to do any research, you’d find out this is his first foray into running for office. There goes your misconception that he’s a “typical politician”.

Well I’ve been disappointed by more than a few and I do work on corruption cases so my view is skewed and for good reason. I haven’t done any research on him but I’ll keep an open mind.


74 posted on 04/25/2014 9:47:04 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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