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As for Monoprise, I have no problem with allowing Big Government to expunge his rights of freedom. It’s not like it makes a difference to our freedom.”

Ukrainians are not our countrymen, we have no compact of mutual defense of their rights. If we did then we would be apliged to go and defend it.

As it is however wether Russia owns Crimea(AS Russia did for most of the last 230 years) or the Ukraine does it will make very little difference in Crimena.

In an ideal world the people of Crimea should be able to vote on their fate. But this id not an ideal world so all we are going to get is the “referendum” Russia carried out.

This is of course morally no different than the one the so called ‘union’ carried out occupied Virginia (Modern day West Virginia) during the ‘Civil war’. Our Federal Government thus has no legs to stand upon in insisting otherwise.


40 posted on 04/26/2014 11:30:41 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

“Ukrainians are not our countrymen, we have no compact of mutual defense of their rights. If we did then we would be apliged to go and defend it.”

You miss the point. Completely.

The US and NATO are not going to fight in Ukraine. That doesn’t make Russia’s illegal annexation and provocations and more accepted as naked aggression and Hitler-like steamrolling of weaker nations.

If it is none of our business and acceptable for Russia’s big Govt. to do this, it is entirely acceptable and none of our business when the US big govt. steamrolls the rights of our citizens.

Your contention that Crimea should vote on it’s fate is absurd. It is the sovereign territory of Ukraine. Russia illegally annexed it and it has nothing to do with voting.


45 posted on 04/26/2014 10:02:24 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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