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Kremlin has lost touch with reality: Baird
bramptonguardian.com ^ | April 25, 2014 |  Mike Blanchfield

Posted on 04/25/2014 1:46:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

OTTAWA - The Kremlin has lost touch with reality in accusing the West of plotting to control Ukraine, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said Friday.

Baird ramped up the war of words with Russia from Latvia, his latest stop on a multi-country eastern European tour aimed at demonstrating Canadian solidarity with some of Russia's worried neighbours and its NATO allies.

Baird said Russia faces further sanctions that will only isolate it further unless it stops its provocative actions in eastern Ukraine, where pro-Russian gunmen have exerted their authority following last month's Russian annexation of the Crimean Peninsula.

"There is no doubt that Russia continues to ramp up its propaganda machine all the while accusing the West of some sort of plot to control Ukraine," Baird said.

"Such ridiculous statements show just how out of touch — and out of touch with reality — the leaders are in the Kremlin."

He was responding to remarks made a few hours earlier by his Russian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov, who accused the West of seeking to control Ukraine to further its own political ambitions.

"The West wants — and this is how it all began — to seize control of Ukraine because of their own political ambitions, not in the interests of the Ukrainian people," Lavrov said in Moscow on Friday.

Baird said halting Russia's dangerous actions remains a priority for the free world.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper also reiterated that concern during remarks to a business audience in Kitchener-Waterloo, Ont.

"This is really for the first time since the 1930s, since the events that led to the Second World War, where you have a major power now articulating that it has a right — for ethnic reasons, essentially, but other reasons — to essentially seize and control and take over territory adjacent to it," Harper said.

"In a case like this, regardless of some short-term economic consequences for ourselves as well as for the Russians, we simply cannot ignore this development. This is very threatening, and the guy who's doing it runs a very large security operation that is potentially a very significant menace to the region and to the wider world."

Baird accused Russia of reneging on the deal that was reached last week in Geneva to defuse the crisis.

"Russia has not taken one concrete move to uphold the commitments it made at Geneva," he said.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, Baird continued, "thinks he has the authority or the duty to expand his empire and redraw the boundaries of Europe. In the 21st century this won't stand."

He said the international community is succeeding in isolating Russia politically and economically. He said there has been a "tremendous flight of capital from the country" along with instability with the Russian currency, the ruble, and its stock market.The ratings agency Standard & Poor's cut Russia's credit rating Friday to one level above "junk status" because investors were pulling money out of country.

"The Russian Federation should know that we stand ready to strengthen our sanctions regime and isolate them further at a moment's notice," Baird said.

"If Russia wants to join the international community, it needs to call off its provocateurs … and withdraw their forces from the confrontational posture."

Baird has had frequent meetings with Lavrov since becoming foreign minister nearly three years ago, but he refused to speculate on whether his conspiracy accusation against the West diminished the chances for a diplomatic solution to the crisis."

A political and diplomatic solution is preferable," Baird said, but added Canada will continue to deliver "forceful" messages to Russia.

U.S. President Barack Obama said Friday he was "deeply encouraged" by the consistent condemnation of Russian actions that he is seeing across Europe, North America and elsewhere.

Obama also said Russia has not lived up to the agreement struck in Geneva. He said Europe and the U.S. were working on broader sanctions in the event Russian forces crossed into Ukraine.

"We'll continue to keep some arrows in our quiver in the event we see further deterioration," Obama said during a news conference in South Korea.


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To: Cowboy Bob
What I want to know is why is the West going bonkers over Ukraine? It’s a bankrupt country - worse off than Greece. It doesn’t have oil or gas. And yet the US and the EU is willing to start a war over it. Why?

Munich. Appeasement.

If history has taught us anything, it is that aggression anywhere in the world is a threat to peace everywhere in the world. When that aggression is supported by the cruel and selfish rulers of a powerful nation who are bent on conquest, it becomes a clear and present danger to the security and independence of every free nation. -- Harry S. Truman, 1951

I could find quotes from other presidents as well, if I wanted to look for them.

I'm not saying that this kind of thinking is right or that it suits every situation, but please, either look this stuff up or don't act like you haven't heard it before.

21 posted on 04/25/2014 2:26:18 PM PDT by x
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Lost touch with reality” means we disagree or we disapprove. Great powers throw their weight around. Politicians accuse their opponents of all kinds of things. Putin is rational in that sense and does have some understanding of reality, even though we may disapprove — and have good reason to disapprove — of what he’s doing.


22 posted on 04/25/2014 2:39:00 PM PDT by x
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To: Cowboy Bob

There is a wing here in the US govt that wants a war. They tried in Syria to take that from Russia now they are trying to take the Ukraine.

Why is beyond me. They keep failing to build any meaningful European consensus on it.

Just today we are seeing “Russian Spy Boats Off Florida” and “Russian Spy Planes Over .. somewhere”. This is nothing new. Whats new is trying to get us all spun up.


23 posted on 04/25/2014 3:01:43 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Oh, and by the way. There will be no war over the Ukraine.

Obama and actors in the west will huff and puff and that's about it. Putin will move his chess pieces and end up with the eastern Ukraine.

There will be no NATO troops or planes sent to the Ukraine in the near future. Obama is not going to send forces there, and if you think any other NATO country will act independently of the US, you are wrong.

24 posted on 04/25/2014 3:04:39 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Cowboy Bob

Ukraine does have a large, untapped field of gas shale that Shell has or is signing leases to explore, develop, and frack. It’s estimated as the 3rd largest European reserve. Of course, both the EU and Russia are interested.


25 posted on 04/25/2014 4:04:23 PM PDT by alien_in_nm
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The problem is Obama has no say in consciousness shaping at this time.

This is tribulation time and Putin is intent on surviving this hunger game, starting first to the get to the finish line.


26 posted on 04/25/2014 4:20:34 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: x

Yes, but it was US/EU aggression that started everything in Ukraine. Why? What president do you want to quote for that behavior? Maybe SOS Hillary! fits in here: “We came, we saw, he died.”


27 posted on 04/25/2014 10:33:47 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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