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Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They ‘Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do’
mediaite.com ^ | April 26, 2014 |  Josh Feldman

Posted on 04/26/2014 11:48:04 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe

Someone needs to ask Maher to explain the Obama Doctrine.


61 posted on 04/26/2014 2:02:47 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: DoughtyOne
On foreign policy I do have more in common with the Realists and less in common with NeoCons like you, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, George Bush etc, etc,

But rather than say I have something in common with John Kerry, I would say I have something in common with republicans like Kissinger, Scowcroft, Baker, Zoellick, Powell, GHW Bush, Lugar etc and democrats like Zbig, Kerry, Sam Nunn, etc.

62 posted on 04/26/2014 2:07:49 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Tailgunner Joe

A real leader should KNOW!


63 posted on 04/26/2014 2:12:56 PM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Need for what!? “Need” is a dynamic concept that changes as the world changes. There should however, be a minimum threshold on the US armament. But Odumbo wants to decimate that as well.


64 posted on 04/26/2014 2:18:29 PM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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To: JohnKinAK

When DC is a threat, outside forces are as well.


65 posted on 04/26/2014 2:19:44 PM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Ben, a realist recognizes what a lack of military preparedness resulted in as it relates to WWI and WWII.

We can all toss out names until we’re blue in the face. Reagan was the type of realist I respect. He saw what a lack of military preparedness resulted in across the board. He refused to allow it during his tenure.

The fact is, John Kerry does approve of dismantling our military. And the fact is, the dismantling that has already taken place, has resulted in military adventurism in the same place it did twice last century.

Why do you think this military adventurism won’t lead to the same things that took place in WWI and WWII?

If Russia were to take over Europe, how many weeks do you think it would be before he would be expanding into South America, via insurgent groups and people like Manuel Ortega or Fidel Castro types?

Where do you wish to draw the lines, our borders? Do you really wish to see all future global wars fought on U. S. soil against the whole rest of the world?


66 posted on 04/26/2014 2:24:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Your #2 and #3 are contradictory. How can the federal government “bring back American jobs”? And how does that “restore freedom and initiative to this country”? Too vague and meaningless phrases. But, hey, the list feels nice.


67 posted on 04/26/2014 2:24:32 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar
Tax reform and regulation reform might make it more profitable for companies to operate in the US rather than overseas. I believe the government effectively chases jobs away. If the government would stop "helping", I think employment would improve.

With a pro-business environment, there would be more entrepreurs. People would show initiative and try to build something. Currently, a lot of people have "gone Galt" and tried to get out of the system because they perceived corruption and a stacked deck. Again, if government "did less", I think more people would jump in, show initiative and try to build their lives.

And, of course, any change involving less taxation, less regulation, and more vibrant economy would foster more freedom in society.

I see no contradictions. I think government blocks solutions. Less government = more solutions.

68 posted on 04/26/2014 2:30:56 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Jobs, economy, healthcare, feelings, culture, arts etc are not responsibilities of the gubmint.

No taxes, no welfare, no healthcare, no culture, no arts, and no feelings! The gubmint has to be lean and mean. When you have to fend for yourself, you will be completely free to thrive (or wither).

Start by voiding such parasitical gubmint programs as social security, medicare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, health insurance, and arts. Then dismantle the concept of taxes, income, capital, sales, and property! No exceptions.

The heck with “American jobs”. That is a socialist concept. The ideal business will require no “jobs” as these are expenses that every business SHOULD BE CUTTING! Freedom is when you have to survive and thrive on your own.


69 posted on 04/26/2014 2:46:03 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Maher asked, then, what exactly President Obama‘s supposed to do”

That’s the million dollar question, s***head: What exactly does Obama do?
Besides, that is, golf, vacation and get reach-arounds from his boyfriends.


70 posted on 04/26/2014 3:00:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: DoughtyOne; SgtHooper
Actually congress enacts and appropriates the money.

But we still owe all this money for Iraq and Afghanistan.

And the worst thing for defense spending was the sequester.

71 posted on 04/26/2014 3:10:31 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Ben I agree the sequester was used to do things they wanted to do, but didn’t want to take responsibility for. They had to but, but did they cut welfare or domestic freebies? No. They gutted the military. It was a Leftist’s dream come true.

I will say this though, under Reagan we had a two theater level of military preparedness. Today we have perhaps one, if that.

We’re about to find out in short order how well that works for us.

Bush / Cheney really screwed us on that. Clinton let our armed forces dwindle to a one theater level, and then Bush came along. He should have fixed it. Instead he made it official policy.

We may very well see WWIII about 100 years after WWI, and for basically the same reasons, nobody to stand up to the evil men in the world.

And here I thought we learned our lessons in the last century. No. We’re about to do it all over again. Our youth will be sent into harms way, because at the end of the day, there is no choice. We stand up to evil men sooner or later. It best be sooner, or it’s in Dallas, Miami, Denver...

None of us wants that.


72 posted on 04/26/2014 3:41:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They ‘Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do’

I'm not surprised that the moron isn't familiar with the old adage:

"When your enemy is destroying himself, don't get in his way".

73 posted on 04/26/2014 4:00:03 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Maher asked, then, what exactly President Obama‘s supposed to do, calling out Republicans for criticizing Obama every which way on Ukraine but “they never say quite what Obama should do.” He said, “If you’re not suggesting we should go to war or send troops, what are you saying?”

It is surprising that someone as “smart” as Maher and other lefties can’t see how idiotic his question is. Obama was presented to us by leftists such as Maher as being the sharpest knife in the drawer. Unlike previous presidents, republicans of course, Obama could do far more than walk and chew gum at the same time. He would know what to do, and do it without fail. Maybe they believed that, but it is hard for me to believe. It is even harder for Putin to believe it.


74 posted on 04/26/2014 4:51:09 PM PDT by billhilly (Its OK, the left hated Bush.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Ben Ficklin

Reagan sure woudn’t have gone to war over Crimea or Ukraine, that’s for sure. How do I know? Crimea and Ukraine were under Russia’s control the whole time Reagan was president. Reagan didn’t go to war against Russia - or any other country (and please dont call the Grenada weekend rescue operation a “war”).

In contrast, Obama has had a long war going - Afghanistan - for his whole administration He also went to war against Libya. And he wanted to go to war against Syria. But the war hawks on FR still think he hasn’t started enough wars.

How I long for Reagan’s time, when being conservative didn’t mean being in favor of endless foreign wars.


75 posted on 04/26/2014 5:08:53 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: rfp1234

Ditto.


76 posted on 04/26/2014 5:13:14 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: WilliamIII

Thanks for your dissertation on histrionics and the comparing of the Ukraine under the USSR and today as a sovereign free nation.

Sheer brilliance...


77 posted on 04/26/2014 5:14:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: SgtHooper; JohnKinAK

D.C. is a threat to my liberty. My liberty isn’t threatened by who rules Ukraine. What WILL be a threat to my liberty - because it will mean more federal growth, deficitis, and debt , and maybe even a draft - is if we go to war with Russia over Ukraine. How fathomlously stupid would that be.


78 posted on 04/26/2014 5:15:47 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: exit82

I think you are exactly right, Obozo is Putin’s bitch and has been since day one. He is pulling the strings and look for Russian troops on the ground here one day.


79 posted on 04/26/2014 5:56:03 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I keep noticing how liberals continue to say “what is the Republicans solution to XYZ”, but ignore the fact that its this administrations lack of policy that has led to these problems. Just trying to pin blame on the Republicans instead of looking at the a$$clown in the white hut.


80 posted on 04/26/2014 6:16:32 PM PDT by mikefive (RLTW)
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